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United States
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I lean towards natural. If it is natural it is a beauty.
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 United States
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There is a remote but non-zero chance that the toning is natural, given the story of where it came from. However, I don't think a TPG, conservative as they are, would endorse the coin with a non-Details slab. Too much question about originality, and they will bag a good coin before they'll take a chance. Put this in front of an old-time Morgan dealer at a big coin show, and you might just get a happier ending. I think this one needs to stay raw. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm in the AT group on this one. Best leave it raw.
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United States
1584 Posts |
I wouldn't sent it to a TPG for a lot of reasons, least of which would be AT or not. This is only my humble and respectful opinion. |
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Canada
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Sadly this coin is AT. Reduces the value a fair bit and not really the coin you'd send to a TPG. Still a nice coin though. On a completely unrelated note, I'm at 3500 Posts!  Edited by zxcccxz
06/26/2014 8:05 pm
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 United States
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I think I am gonna send it in. At least I will know for sure. At or nt it's still a very pretty coin. And if it's "at" I Will get a nice display box and put it on the mantle. You Can't do that with a valuable coin in today's society. ** I took another pic of this coin with no zoom and no fash  |
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See that spot on the cheek? That's a no go, captain. Dead giveaway right there... this thing is AT. Did you buy it off ebay? I recognize those holders you have it in. |
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United States
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No I put it in that holder. And no ebay. Got it from a old friend the coin was in a craft envelope when I got it from him |
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Fair enough, still saying AT for many reasons.
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United States
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The last photo to me changes my opinion to AT, and not natural, or chemically treated and heated possibly. The spot of toning on the cheek isn't right, though contact with highly sulfurous paper could cause that, the blue color just looks unlike anything I've seen before, when mixed with the other colors. PCGS Secure holder gets the coin put into their sniffer test machine, that actually analyzes the coin for certain known chemical substances. An article dealing with their sniffer technology: http://www.pcgs.com/News/Pcgs-Coin-...ctored-Coins"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
06/27/2014 03:03 am
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United States
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Just doesn't have "the look" that naturally monster-toned morgans have. 1000 Posts  Edited by Cruisinfusion
06/27/2014 12:19 pm
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PCGS Secure holder gets the coin put into their sniffer test machine, that actually analyzes the coin for certain known chemical substances.
westcoin, I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for the info. |
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United States
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Also coins in TPG slabs can and are AT after the slabbing, the holders are not air tight by any means. Coin World published a great 2 part article on it in the early 2000's as I recall, wish I saved the article. The coins were placed in various zip-lock baggies and fumigated with various chemical compounds, some which drastically altered the coins appearance - some good looking, others not so good looking. The story that goes with the coin as far as one can believe it, along with an old manila sulfur coin envelope isn't out of line to produce colors like this over time. Is a coin really AT if toned this way? All that happened is a more vigorous exposure to known metal changing vapors, and lots of time. Some say yes, others are on the side of natural. Either way it's not a bad looking or overtly blatant AT coin at all, would be interesting to see what PCGS say on a secure submission. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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At least I will know for sure. No, you won't. You'll only know what they think, and as I mentioned they err on the side of caution. |
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United States
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Well if you do decide to send it in, be sure to let us know what it comes back. I am 99% sure that that color is not natural.
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