Does This Carson City Roll Contain All CC Dollars?

There's two different bidders that are only bidding on this item, one with zero feedback. Any less suspicious than an obw roll of CC Morgans with heads up on both ends?

dave....possible shill running up the bid?

Another suspicious seller, noting a poster stating these boxes can easily be opened and resealed. He seems to have a unlimited supply of these, selling for close to double what the common dates go for. From feedback it doesn't look like anyone has received any jackpots and basically overpaid for common GSA CC. Not making any accusations, just observations.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unopened-GS...em3ce55529fd

I grew up in a small town in Texas in the 50's and 60's and our banks silver dollar rolls were either in tan paper tubes or in the old style two window, one-size-fits-all paper wrapper. The ends were pushed down by hand. I remember that machine crimped rolls didn't come into the picture until sometime in the 60's (in our town).

The roll in the ebay listing appears machine wrapped. I'm guessing that some scumbag had some paper tubes made up with vintage appearing B&E printing, let them weather in the sun a few years and then made up his rolls with two BU end coins and 18 common circ dollars.

I doubt very seriously if the Bullion & Exchange Bank in Carson City even had electricity in the early 1880's. They may have had a hand cranked crimper of some type but I doubt that, too.

Most of the 82, 83 and 84 CC mintage ended up in the Treasury vaults and few coins were released at the time of minting. They already had tons of silver dollars piling up everywhere the Treasury could put them.

This listing is a 100% scam in my opinion.

It's very interesting how closely the print on the coin wrapper matches this B&E check from 1900. Right down to the positioning of the second line under the first.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-Bullio...em27e530cda4

For $12 you can get an original check, scan and reduce, print your own wrappers and start your own CC scam. But if you want to do it right, start with a check from the mid 1880's, and don't throw in rolls of Franklins and Kennedys for teasers.

I have bought a lot of boxed CC dollars over the years. By "boxed", I mean they were in the original addressed shipping box from the GSA with a mailing label on it to the "winner" of the coin. I have seen them them in blue, yellow and white colors. EVERY one on them I have ever owned has the year of the coin (that is inside the box) stamped in blue ink somewhere on the box. Sometimes the date stamp is hidden under the shipping label but it can still be seen. I think I still have a few of these shipping boxes around. If I can find em I'll post some pictures.

I am thinking that the "unopened" boxes we are seeing on ebay in this day and age are "aftermarket creations"---- they are too good for being 35+ years old! The "perps" are buying the boxes somewhere, buying common date, low end MS GSA dollars , loading up the box, sealing it and then passing it off on ebay as the real deal.

I don't recall EVER seeing an original GSA shipping box that did not have a mailing label on it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Buying unopened GSA boxes seems to be a really bad investment. I see a lot of people spending around $350 on ebay for what appears to always be a common date CC. Looking at FMV's for 82, 83 & 84 GSA CCs, it would need to be MS64, MS62/63 PL or an 1882 VAM-2 minimum to be a sound purchase. For me, $100.00+ premium for the thrill of opening a box (followed by a let down) is way out of line. I've even seen feedback from buyers to the tune of Oh well, I'll try again next month. I guess when you graduate from buying seeded unsearched rolls of Wheats this is what you do.

Yeah Ed, it's like I said in a reply to another similar topic, you can't save them all. It's to the point now that the only peolple that can be helped by CCF are the members and lurkers.