Does This Carson City Roll Contain All CC Dollars?

Here are a couple of scans of a known "good" GSA box that held an 1885-CC coin from a 1973 sale that was delivered in December of 1973.

Notice the blue "1885" stamped on the box under the upper left corner of the GSA label.

This box is a light lemon yellow color. Others I have seen have been denim blue and white.







I have NEVER seen a GSA dollar shipping box that did not have an address label on it. Each coin, as far as I know, was mailed individually. As far as I know they were never sold in bulk, either.

I would be suspect of any GSA dollar being offered in an unopened box without a GSA label on it.

The black "Nixon" box, with the coin and COA inside, were placed inside the yellow, blue or white shipping box. The 1880 coins had an extra "attention" card in it that lauded to the fact that some of the 1880 coins were varieties/over dates. The label was slapped on it and it was then given to the Post Office for mailing.

The black box would fit snugly inside the shipping box with no wiggle room at all. It was tough to get the "Nixon" box out of the shipping box sometimes.

They were not "double boxed" per se.

I remember being bummed out when all I was getting in the 15$ mixed category was 1878-CC's. Lol.

OK, so unless the box looks something like this with an address label, it's a fake? How does the seller in the link below know it's a CC dollar, when according to earlier poster it could be ANY 1881 Dollar from any mint, UNC, or not UNC? Seller says it's still sealed...does that mean he didn't open it, or that it's just still in original package?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GSA-1881-CC...em1c43b74ab5

That listing looks legit to me and that box is what an 1881-CC would have been shipped in during that order period time frame.

Would I take a $1000 chance on it?

No

Unless the box has been tampered with its an unc 1881-CC, but the degree of "unc" could be anywhere from 60 to 65. My experience is most of the unc GSA's are in the 62-63-64 category. These things were carted all over the country in bags and a lot of them took a beating before they ended up in the Treasury vaults in Washington. You rarely see coins from the GSA hoards in 65/66, but it does happen.

CC $ coins that were ugly, toned or heavily marked were culled out of the hoards and sold in a mixed CC category for 15$ minimum bid. I've seen a lot of nicely toned coins come out of those groups. Come to think of it, I don't remember if those shipping boxes had the date of the coin stamped on the box. I don't think they did. It's been a long time since these were sold and I don't remember everything that went on with each sale.

As I commented earlier, the math is such that I just can't see how it could possibly work out for that buyer, unless there's a real rarity in that "Morgan" roll. No one has said so, but just because there's a Morgan on each end by no means guarantees there's 18 more within, even common circulated ones, regardless of the representtion or assumption of the seller. Depending on when the roll was actually made up (presuming it's actually an unsearched bank wrapped roll), there oould be Peace dollars so bracketed, or even clad Ikes, or any mix of these.

The only person that knows exactly what is inside that roll is the Seller. He can claim "bank wrapped", "unsearched" or "unopened" all he wants to. Yes, I think he is lying at worst or misrepresenting at best.

Think about it. Would anyone in their right mind sell an original bank wrapped roll of dollars that are 120 years old from a bank in Carson City through an online venue that is known to be a haven for scammers?