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What are the chances that "if" it's a real OBW roll, that it contains all unc CC dollars. Looks real to me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/14135854923...t_1101wt_900Have only been really active on ebay for about 1 year, but have never see a Morgan Carson City roll. Have seen New Orleans and San Francisco. This might bid up to 10K before it's over.  |
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It's well-established that these rolls are fakes and the interior coins are all commons. Don't get ripped off.
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Thanks. Yes, I've seen the article about the "short" rolls being fake. I have nowhere enough money to risk on this listing anyway. My only question was that "IF" the roll was by some chance real, would it contain CC dollars.
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at are the chances that "if" it's a real OBW roll, that it contains all unc CC dollars. What are the chances that it contains even one CC Morgan dollar .............. slim to none. |
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Just another made up story to find suckers.
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Think how stupid you would be as a seller to not open a truly unsearched CC roll/box. It could be worth 100,000 if it had the right years and conditions. The only reason someone would sell it as a roll is because they know it won't be worth as much as individual coins. At least that's my gut feeling.
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I agree. Yeah, lets be real, who wouldn't open a roll like that? The seller has the perfect set-up to steal someone blind. He doesn't really sell coin stuff, so he can play dumb there, and he covered himself in the description about various mints and dates. Wow, I wish I had all the money that people just throw away on these things.
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This would be a good time to look into when "rolls" were invented; it'd give one a strong clue as to the potential for finding a genuine roll of UNC's. Which is to say, not very likely, especially since the Mint didn't do things by roll. Not then, not now, not ever.
Although I don't doubt Morgan OBW's exist/did exist, the appearance of a genuine one on the market would be major news to me. And they'd all be the same mintage year, unlike this auction....
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Well at least they got the name of the bank correct this time. Still lots of red flags.
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United States
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Love how both sides of the roll coincidentally show only the obverse of the coins so you can't see the mint marks. I suspect the buyer is going to be extremely disappointed.
Edited by usc96
08/03/2014 2:22 pm
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SsuperDdave, coin roll technology showed up late 19th century, but wasn't common until the early 20th, from what I understand and remember reading in another thread about these rolls.
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The seller states he has no idea of the mms contained.
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I suspect the seller knows EXACTLY what is in the roll.
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A fool and his money will soon separate.
The end roll coins appear to be typical weaker Philly or New Orleans strikes. CC and S mint dollars from those years usually have sharp strikes.
GSA shipping boxes can be opened with a good knife, inspected for dates/quality and resealed with Elmer's glue. Those are probably "common" 82, 83 or 84 CC's.
Total value of the deal is about 1000$ assuming the 18 coins in the roll we can't see are common BU Morgans.
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"Standard Shipping" for $95? Flag
No returns? Flag
Watching, but not "buying" it.
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Well, this is gambling at best, with the distinct possibility of the game being rigged. Presuming there's no outright fraud involved, and making base assumptions that the contents of the roll are all Morgan "commons" in, say, an average of XF/AU condition, the two GSA CC's are 1882's, 83's, or (most likely) 84's, and the Franklin & Kennedy rolls are just what they appear to be and contain nothing special, the total retail value would be maybe in the $1,500 range if I'm calculating correctly. So your "wager" is that there's something especially valuable within that makes up the difference in whatever you pay above that amount. Since the bidding is at this point has reached well more than double that retail figure, that means you'd have to find something really terrific in there already to make this bet pay off.
Seems to me to be a fool's game even if all the representations made are on the up and up.
Colligo ergo sum
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Posted 08/03/2014 1:03 pm
