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I Need Help Evaluating An 1877 "S" Trade Dollar

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 Posted 08/09/2014  4:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BrianL to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, everyone. I am new to this, so please excuse me if I am making amateur mistakes.
I have had an 1877 silver Trade dollar with an "s" mark on it for over a decade and I am trying to evaluate it's quality. I have been reading about the various grading standards and I have an opinion regarding where it may fit on the grading scale, but I am a neophyte.
I am uncertain about the size of the "s", as I understand the size varies, as well as the relative placement of the "1 and 8". Having only one of these to look at doesn't help me compare possible variations.
If one or more of you has an educated opinion you'd be kind enough to share with me, I'd be greatly appreciative.
Thank you very much for reading and/or responding to my post.

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 Posted 08/09/2014  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF details cleaned and/or polished
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 Posted 08/09/2014  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF BrianL. Here is a link that you may have already seen. http://www.pcgs.com/books/silver-do...ngs-045.aspx
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XF details, polished.
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Welcome to the CCF BrianL.
As mentioned, your coin appears to be harshly cleaned which will substantially effect value.
I agree with XF Details.
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 Posted 08/09/2014  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziskindd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
However, if there is a cup half-full approach, it appears to be genuine.
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 Posted 08/09/2014  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BrianL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wiped it with a small, felt cloth meant for wiping the patina off my sterling silver silverware so that I could see the extent of the scratches on the coin's face. It was about 15 seconds of wiping with this dry cloth. No abrasive or solvent was used. Will this really "substantially" affect the value? Like I said in my original post, I am a neophyte here, but won't that patina return once the coin is handled? Will the value then substantially increase? Lesson learned- I won't do that again, but I merely wanted the picture I posted to the forum to be as clear as possible so that you all could see the detail.
Thank you all for your input. -B
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Yes...wiping with ANY abrasive cloth, no matter how minor, will diminish the value.
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If there is any consolation, we have all cleaned coins at one time or another. It is part of the learning process.
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As you said lesson learned. Never clean your coins because that affects their value. I love patina.
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Funny- I never considered cleaning ANY of my coins until I photographed this Trade dollar. (sigh) If only I had picked a less impressive coin as my intro to the CCF I could've learned this lesson differently... Oh well, life goes on. I have other coins to share with you all and I'll be sure to never wipe them. Until then, thank you for the advice and thank you for all the friendly welcome messages! -B
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The coin looks to me to be of the "Medium S" variety. Though it's a bit challenging for me to accurately measure a 1.1mm s versus a 1.17mm s, it looks like 1.1mm to me. I also think that the 1 and 8 are touching and it features a "heavy date". I don't see any chopmarks. Does anyone know how common the "medium s" Trade dollar is, relative to the others? -B
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