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Liberty Head Half Eagle

My friend has 2 Liberty Half Eagle gold pieces which he will sell to me for $485 for both(242 each). They are in pretty good condition. Will I be able to sell these to a dealer at a coin show for a quick profit, or will I end up losing money.

Do dealers generally offer melt? Or below melt?
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If they are common mid grade Half eagle most dealers
Will give you back of melt for them.

A good dealer might give you 90 to 92 percent.
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Doesn't matter what a Dealer will offer you. The melt of value of two half eagles is ~$633. If they're genuine you should jump on that offer.
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If your FRIEND needs the money, why don't you suggest he sell them to a dealer himself? Why cut your friend out of what value he has?
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Give your friend $550, sell them on ebay for $700 as a pairing. Your buddy gets more money, you still clear $75 on the transaction.
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Are you sure they not quarter-eagles? The $242/each price makes some sense for G$2.50 pieces but no sense for G$5. As noted gold half eagles melt for about $316 and that's for low grade common dates.

Anyway, to answer your question: Most dealers will pay slightly below melt for generic circulated classic gold. 90% to 95% of melt is normal for good dealers with some unscrupulous characters offering far less than 90% of melt.
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First off are you sure they are real? Far, far too much of the raw gold floating around out there are fakes.

Just because he's 'had them a while' doesn't mean anything. I had my 'gold' dollars which were given to my by my grandfather in 78 or 79 checked by NGC at ANA - known fakes from the 70s made in Lebanon.

As for gold content - that's the fastest test. But you want non-destructive testing, not scratching the coin on a stone and testing with acid. The nice jewelry vendor a couple tables down used his XRF [x-ray flourescence] device and found they were both just under 18kt. Which makes sense, they melted old jewelry to obtain the gold.

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If I had a friend, I wouldn't be trying to make a quick flip off of him. But that is just me.
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If I had a friend, I wouldn't be trying to make a quick flip off of him. But that is just me.


Same here.
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This is sounding like many other threads where the coins end up being fake. If it is really a friend take him to the store and help him.
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Ive told him there potentially worth more, he has told me he cant be bothered. Therefore thats why hes offering them to me.
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Makes it sound even more fishy. He's too busy to go make another $200 at the dealer but he needs the money?
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Take the coins on consignment from your friend for a couple of days. Take them to your local dealer and see what he offers you for them. If it's more than what your friend wants for them sell em, pay your friend what he was asking and pocket the difference for your time and trouble.

The dealer will know whether they are counterfeit or not before he makes you an offer.
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