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Pillar of the Community
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Valued Member
United States
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It could be a Chinese fake PCGS
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Forum Dad
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If your making fakes overgrading them would be kind of stupid.
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Korea, Republic Of
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It could be a Chinese fake PCGS No, the coin looks absolutely genuine and there seems to be nothing wrong with the slab either. Checked the cert number in the pcgs site and it matches perfectly. IMO it looks accurately graded; if overgraded, the lowest it can go is 65. Quote:
Think I will get all of my MS 62/63's sent back out for a new grade. If you look at the examples of 62/63 in Photograde, they are a lot worse than the 66 from the link. Deep hits, bag marks, etc. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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APMEX uses stock photos. The pictured coin will not be the one you receive but you will get a PCGS MS66 pre-21 Morgan. As far as the one pictured, it likely has excellent luster and also note APMEX generics are almost never going to be strong coins for the grade so you end up with a low-end 66 in this case.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks more like a 64 IMHO.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not sure how APMEX acquired them, but if they had them graded themselves, you can be sure that PCGS went a bit easy on them. But......that being said, the coin shown is a horrible example. Will probably make any coin you actually get from them look good. APMEX sells genuine stuff, but like was mentioned, probably low-end 66s. Not a bad price though, w/free shipping....still cheaper on ebay though. |
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United States
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I wish they graded some of my coins that loosely. :) I am sure it is justified.
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United States
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I would say it has 66 luster but 64 grade overall.
There is a decent amount of bagginess going on with that coin.
Also on the reverse underneath states those deeper scrathes alone should have knocked it down below 66 EASY.
Those arent typical bag scratches, those are deeper for sure.
Just my opinion..
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MS64, no higher.
Yeah, I don't know how that gets past 3 graders and a finalizer, all who are supposed to be "professional graders".
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United States
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Wow that coin on the left must be incredibly dense (or thick?) in order to weigh a full 1 oz. I even checked the cert # for that one and sure enough it is entered as 1 oz in the database as well.
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Wow that coin on the left must be incredibly dense (or thick?) I will rephrase that for you; Wow that PCGS employee must be incredibly dense (or thick?)  |
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Wow that PCGS employee must be incredibly dense (or thick?)
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United States
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Which one is the fake? I'm thinking it's the one on the right, the larger coin. Bar codes are different, as are the serials, but the fonts and slabs look exactly the same. Are they both real? I see trout1105's coin listed in the registry at PCGS cert look up database.
Weird that the coin ID is the same, as I don't know much about Australian coins I'm curious now on this posted coin.
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Posted 08/30/2014 11:07 pm
