What About A 40.6 American Silver Eagle / ASE : Cool Or Fool?

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mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 10/01/2014 11:20 pm Hello, Do I have anything to worry about being that I just: a) weighed my 1990 PROOF American 90% Silver Eagle at 31.30 g with a precisely calibrated scale: a 0.96% differential to the stated norm of 31.1 g? b) measured the diameter of this same 1990 PROOF American 90% Silver Eagle at 40.60 mm with a precisely calibrated caliper: a 2.4% differential to the stated norm of 41.6 mm? This ASE is packaged in an official looking purple velvet covered flip top metal box along with a COA. Are we looking at a silver-plated lead coin here, simply one possessing acceptable deviations falling within publicly stated tolerance ranges, or some other disingenuous anomaly? mdpmedia Report this Post to the Staff

unholyroller Pillar of the Community United States 1903 Posts	Posted 10/02/2014 01:04 am You are within acceptable tolerences as far as I can find Report this Post to the Staff
Matteproof Pillar of the Community Korea, Republic Of 1881 Posts	Posted 10/02/2014 03:05 am Within tolerance rates I'd say. Report this Post to the Staff
CopperCastle Pillar of the Community United States 1132 Posts	Posted 10/02/2014 03:13 am I asked the same question not long ago concerning a Maple. Got the same answers too! Counterfeits are (typically) underweight. Extra silver for you! Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 10/02/2014 09:32 am The weight is within tolerance but not that diameter. A full mm smaller? In order to have the reeding it would have to expand into the 41.6 mm collar. At 40.6 mm it would only have traces of reeding or no reeding whatsoever. Report this Post to the Staff
unholyroller Pillar of the Community United States 1903 Posts	Posted 10/02/2014 11:14 am When measuring diameter it is critical on how you align you caliper. If you ran your caliper parallel to the reeding, you could have easily measured the distance between the "valley" of the reeding and gotten your smaller measurement. Always run your caliper fingers perpendicular to the reeding Edited by unholyroller 10/02/2014 11:17 am Report this Post to the Staff
mdpmedia Pillar of the Community United States 3546 Posts	Posted 10/03/2014 02:30 am Quote: ...caliper parallel to the reeding... I always have measured my coins with the calipers perpendicular to the reeds and this was the case with the measurements initially done on this ASE. Additionally, to ensure accurate repeatability I checked the diameter of a 2014 D Roosy dime with these same calipers also used on the ASE and it came back to be 17.90 mm: an exact match according to - http://www.coincommunity.com/us_dim...oosevelt.asp The 'valley between the reeding' comment, however, is something to be aware of in case one accidentally measures it this way and receives erroneous diameter results. Now, I'm back to square one with an ASE weight that is allegedly within tolerances but with a diameter being 2.4% too low compared to the published US mint value. So what would be the next investigative step to nail down this sucker since I'm unsure if a SG machine, for example, would reveal any significantly different results leading one to conclude that this coin is a counterfeit? Report this Post to the Staff
jgfindring Rest in Peace United States 1380 Posts	Posted 10/03/2014 2:27 pm The fakes on ali-express are listing their diameter as 40 mm, weight 31 grams, so fake is possible. Report this Post to the Staff
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What About A 40.6 ASE: Cool Or Fool?