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1795 Flowing Hair Half Dollar On Ebay. MS-62?

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Thoughts on this grade?
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10/03/2014 8:07 pm
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Die Striations right down that obverse relief from the top from what I can tell. I guess NGC saw MS appointments and there must be some luster we're not privy on those pics.
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Quite a few adjustment marks but aside from that if there is luster present I don't see why this can't be MS-62.
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UNC details. Ugly coin with severe adjustment marks and appears to have a rim file from 1PM to 3PM on the obverse.
Coin was FOOLISHLY cracked-out of a "Col" H.R. Green MS-62 holder. Coin has lost it's provenance and probably worth much less than the $41,125 the owner paid recently for it at Heritage:
http://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half-...1190-33416.s
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Why was it cracked out? What a BIG shame.
Can it ever regain its provenance because the marks, toning, imperfections, etc. match up with the pics of the coin in the EPN pedigree slab?
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This seller...
And if he just crossed it over instead of cracked it and resent it, it would get the "Newman Collection" designation.
Example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/351186578917?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html%3F_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=351186578917&_rdc=1
http://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/-...1199-30258.s
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If it was plated in the Newman sale and the coin can be matched with the plate, you could probably get the pedigree back.
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If I had the cash available I would not buy this coin. It's ugly regardless of the grade. Just my opinion of course...
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For that price, there needs ro be far more eye-appeal. If I had that much to spend on a single coin, this one wouldn't even make my list. I'd sooner buy bullion than this one ...
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Well, unfortunately, if you want a Mint State 1795 O-124, you're stuck with this one. It's the only known Mint State example. That fact, along with the coin's unique appearance, should make the recovery of the provenance relatively easy.
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Please educate me as to what adjustment marks are.
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CherreePicker! Thank you for the good article explaining "Adjustment Marks".
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I think the coin is "spot on" graded 62 by NGC. In hand, the coin probably looks much better than the pics represent.
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Even with the adjustment marks giving explanation to for the scratches I don't think this coin exceeds AU. And if I had 65K to spend on coins I would have a chain cent;D
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I don't think the rim damage above RI on the reverse s from adjustments though. The damage isn't too severe though.
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