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New Member
Australia
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How is the rare coin and banknote market performing in 2014.
Is the market for quality pre decimal coins and banknotes going up or down.
Has the collapse of the Rare coin Company negatively impacted the market.
Is now the time to take advantage and buy or sell out.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Definitely a buyers market at the moment
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
852 Posts |
Something doesn't seem to make sense in Andrews write up. 17,000 active collectors and a 400 million annual turnover is an average of $500/person each week. Now some collectors have the deep pockets to do multiples of that but I doubt 1% of collectors are both that well off and spend that much. It would also imply that either collectors turn over their collections frequently (unlikely) or the typical collector has a high 6 figure coin collection (I wish). It is a buyers market and will be for a few years(I'm happily buying).
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Valued Member
Australia
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$400 million probably includes wholesale.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
852 Posts |
Eric, you may be right. If a 1930 penny is sold to a dealer for 15 grand who sells it to another dealer for 18 grand who retails it for 25 grand that makes 58 grand "turnover". I'm thinking the 17,000 active collectors is an understatement as there must be many more than that to account for all the grannybait coins and annual mint sets.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The collectors would not all be individuals, but also companies etc, who buy for the returns.
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Australia
852 Posts |
Very few companies buy either numi coins or bullion coins (unless they are coin dealing firms). Some individuals buy for their personal superannuation portfolios (mostly high end items) and some individuals (stackers mostly) buy monster boxes or tubes of bullion coins. Are either stackers or investors really collectors? (even if they account for a fair chunk of the overall market turnover).
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Valued Member
Australia
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Pre decimal coins are struggling and in my opinion it is a dying category (literally). Most people only collect things that they have grown up with, hence decimals are out performing pre decimals. The strongest market is decimal errors, banknotes are stupidly weak in price (may be a risky investment that could give you big returns down the track if you decide to invest in banknotes).
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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im with you tella .....................your spot on glad I grabbed all the goodies early
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Australia
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Quote: Pre decimal coins are struggling and in my opinion it is a dying category (literally). The preference now with many Australian collectors to prefer to buy PCGS/NGC graded coins has probably lowered the value of many "Upgradable" coins that many dealers still have in stock and can NO longer pass them off as "No Problem" coins to the unwary , This is a "Good thing" 
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Yeah,Ebay and Slabbing has certainly altered the status quo.
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Australia
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Quote: Pre decimal coins are struggling and in my opinion it is a dying category I wouldn't agree with that. Any high grade KGV coin is going to attract serious money. In fact part of the problem may be that high grade pre decimals are now out of the price range of casual collectors. Back to the original question though. The banknote market is clearly at a low ebb. Predecimal banknotes have lost value and there are more starnotes on the market than there are buyers who want them. About the only banknotes doing well are 90s polymers. Remember the first rule of investing though. Buy when the market is low and sell when the market is high.
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slabbing is the best thing that happened ...........it gives the new punter a chance in a slabb other wise you had to trust the dealer or the ebbay flees it has bought a whole new type of collector .............but like I have preached most only like to collect what they have seen or know like my kids they don't show interest in predecimal but are now quite the experts at decimal errors
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