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I'll start this off with a Mexican 1893 Ga (Guadalajara) 8 Reales.   If you were to rotate the chop on the Phrygian cap 90 degrees clockwise, it would appear you then have the Chinese character meaning "big". As for the relief chop beneath the eagle's wing, I'm reliably advised that the character represents "yù" meaning in a general sense "plentiful" and more specifically "abundant in clothing and other goods", so it would seem to have something of a merchantile (or at least materialistic) connotation consistent with a coin marked for use in commercial trade. Colligo ergo sum
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10/15/2014 08:22 am
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Here my 1901 British Trade dollar with one chopmark on each side:   |
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I have a few of these. I was always told that the chops make these less valuable, but I like them. Nothing like a well traveled coin with the scars to prove it.   |
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'thryan9', I selected the Trade dollar pictured above from a group of them because it has the two chopmarks. While unidentifiable marks can be a nuisance on most coins, I agree with you when it comes to trade coinage like pieces of eight or Trade dollars. |
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Another type of Mexican 8 Reales here:   Several punchmarks, both sides - but can't beat 'thryan9'. Especially the punchmark on the eagle's head is quite neat. |
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Lucky Cuss, I would need to be able to see better pictures of that 3rd chopmark maybe at different angles or the coin in-hand (unlikely) with a high power loupe/microscope in order to determine which parts are dings to the coin and which parts are supposed to be the actual chopmark. My (parents') problem is that we cannot tell which part is the chopmark vs a dent.
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coinlover168 - Here's another shot taken somewhat obliquely and with more cross lighting. However, it doesn't seem to be a huge improvement, and unfortunately I think I'm at the limit of what I can do with this camera. Incidentally, I did provide the persons who have looked at this already with a loupe so they could view it under magnification. Their inability to make any sense of it may well be due to part of the character having been obliterated.  Colligo ergo sum
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My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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What? No US Trade dollars yet? Here's mine, purchased in an ANACS AU58 holder, cracked and submitted to PCGS when they started grading chopmarked Trade dollars. They graded it AU55. I just love the history of these well-traveled coins!  |
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Here're links to a couple of reviews attributed to Michael E. Marotta of the recently published book, Chopmarked Coins: A History by Colin James Gullberg. I'm providing both links because the content of the two articles is different and not totally overlapping. I'm not acquainted with either author, and haven't myself bought a copy of the book yet, so it shouldn't be construed that I'm promoting anyone or anything here, but rather I simply thought this was interesting information on the topic at hand worth sharing. http://www.coinweek.com/featured-ne...a-1600-1935/http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v17n35a07.htmlColligo ergo sum
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Can't have a thread on chop marks and have no pillar dollar representation. Here is a 1769 8 reales from the Mexico City mint that took a nice vacation in the orient at some point.   |
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A very intersting chopmarked coin was on the block at the Heritage U.S. Coin Auction recently held at FUN/Orlando. On page 219 of catalog #1216, lot #4947, an 1870-CC Seated Half. The description incorrectly characterizes the chop as "incuse" when in fact it's a relief type. They do provide a translation, though.
Colligo ergo sum
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Here's an interesting one, an 1894 Hong Kong Five Cents. Note the incuse "5" stamped behind Victoria's coiffure. While this is a low value denomination, it is silver, and purely numeric chops have been documented. Thoughts, anyone?   Colligo ergo sum
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