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 Posted 11/18/2014  11:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pfrien to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
From CCN: Century-old hoard surfaces in Winnipeg. Apparently "thousands of original Canadian Mint State coins particularly between 1880 and 1914".

Well, that will just about kill the coin market until the hoard hits the Legacy auction in February. In the investment business this is called an "overhang of supply". Until I know what is hitting the market, I will not buy anything.

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 Posted 11/18/2014  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pfrien to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I might add that since this is a hoard, it may add significantly to the population of previously rare gem coins. Apparently the collection was unknown for past 70 years. I imagine if you had the only mint state 1887 quarter recorded and now ICCS population report adds five new MS quarters. Ouch.
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ya who knows how many there actually be!

You may have heard something like this "too many coins and not enough collectors"!
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 Posted 11/19/2014  12:16 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Be interesting to see what is in this hoard. Any links to a story? Who knows if it is really good stuff, could be a great boost to the Canadian coin hobby. If the hoard is tightly held and controlled by a few there will not be any fire sale anytime soon.
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yeah, and my mother is the queen of china.
IF it is true.. Probably instigated and illustrated by the RCM. simply to re-direct interest as they have really peeeed off real true collectors.
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Even here in Australia I have heard the rumours of a large hoard being found but all the talk has been light on details.

Don't worry, this additional supply of MS Vickies and Edwards will have absolutely no effect on trend prices!
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Very interesting, could potentially have a huge impact on the values
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I tend to be more optimistic... It might draw more collectors into mint state coins. The hoard of 1914 5c in PCGS high grades has not overly affected the price to acquire one... It just means they are available to buy, as opposed to the "good luck trying to find one"...
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Spp-Ott....try selling an MS 1914 5c back to a dealer.

That's when the light bulb should go off.
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Eagle, a dealer needs a large margin. Most dealers try and buy raw so they can argue and lowball the grade.
same as a car dealer. buy a new car, drive it around the block and sell it back. minus 30%
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Lets find out the volume available before we speculate.
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Good discussion. All I know is that my Silver Dollar collection is safe, but my quarter collection is vulnerable. If there are some nice examples of Vickie quarters, I will be on the buy side. Maybe a once in a lifetime opportunity to buy Gem Vickies. I wonder how many 50 cents GEMs there will be?
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Funny.. I live in Winnipeg and haven't heard of this... perhaps more details when I talk to a few people this weekend...
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Does anyone know what company will be handling the grading? Might be a good idea to keep an eye on the population reports...
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jdmern - apparently ICCS has graded about 1,000 coins.
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This starting to sound like a CNN news sound bite! Is there a LINK to a story or some real news out there on this? Or is it all just talk?
If this is indeed true it changes the landscape on choice early Canadian for sure. That can only be for the betterment of the hobby In the long term. I agree with SPP on this, total optimism. Whenever a neat hoard is found , it DOES create excitement in the hobby. Look back at all the moaning and wailing over the Carson City dollar sales. Today we drool at the prices the US Treasury sold the stuff for. The Bank of Canada hoard created excitement and market action. The Canadian and Newfoundland stuff that came out of England years ago was properly dispersed and had little or no effect on the market.
There are other little hoards that some of us dealers have acquired ( the 1913 Large Cents and 1914 5 cents acquired a few years back an example) and hold them tightly, so as not to hurt the market. More hoards will come out as the very old collectors die off and the families settle the estates. Just part of the Coin World!
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