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 Posted 11/20/2014  6:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add collectorofthings to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
what are the best subscription to get in Canada? is there anything other than the Canadian coin news?
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Join the royal Canadian numismatic association,and you will also get a
journal,
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 Posted 11/20/2014  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And access to their library with the RCNA.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The CN Journal ( RCNA) is a superior publication, unless you like excessive advertisements and articles about Royal Canadian Mint releases...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer

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 Posted 11/20/2014  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get a free subscription so I am not complaining. (ask me why? I might tell you that SPPs "best error friend" goofed royally and did not even have the decency to correct it)
IMO, the publication is NOT worth to subscribe to. as SPP says, just look at5 the ads....
But, what really bothers me is this: the RCNA ( I am a member) and CNN have the same Pres...., and he sure uses every phot-op he can get.
Just like a politician.
by being a member of the RCNA you get some fantastic KNOWLEGE and expertise, because many members are real experts.. SPP, ZONAD, just to mention 2.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike Walsh is the President of RCNA?
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 Posted 11/21/2014  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
check again
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 Posted 11/21/2014  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
47P7, the Canadian numismatic community is much too small, and the RCNA executive is too much of 'an old boys club' to avoid any potential conflict of interest...

Fact is, it takes a ton of volunteer time to participate in the RCNA, on council, as an executive, to be the editor, or to host the annual RCNA show. Conflict or not, anyone who is willing to donate a considerable amount of their time, is welcomed, regardless of a real or perceived conflict of interest. The hobby in Canada needs these volunteers, and if you are unhappy with it, then step up and get involved...





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Getting involved often depends upon location and ability to schmooze with said "old boys' club." I've served on the executive and have volunteered my time in other capacities. It can only get better by making it better...
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 Posted 11/21/2014  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectorofthings to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks SPP Ottawa
I'll check out the RCNA. I'm also in Ottawa, can you point me to any good coin stores, markets, sales, clubs?

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 Posted 11/21/2014  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Strach-Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Canadian Coin & New is like any other newspaper out there and they do make mistakes, even putting it on the front of the paper. You can judge a newspaper by their character by how fast they are willing to own up to their mistake and printing a correction or not
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I'm absolutely... positively ..sure that we will see a full retraction on this "well researched error" ...or maybe not...in the next issue...

Probably see it on the front page...
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 Posted 11/21/2014  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm also in Ottawa, can you point me to any good coin stores, markets, sales, clubs?


The Ottawa Numismatic Society is the local club. The club always is welcoming new members. But, during the winter you won't see me there (Coin Club meeting night conflicts with my daughter's Irish Dancing lessons...)

http://ons-sno.ca/main/
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 Posted 11/22/2014  02:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The hobby in Canada needs these volunteers, and if you are unhappy with it, then step up and get involved.


SPP, this response is triggered by your reponse to my "issue" suggesting both entities ( RCNA and CCN) have the same president. If you are suggesting that these 2 positions (perhaps one is, probably with a big fat expense account) are volunteer positions, I think the facts would disappoint you.
Just like in politics, one sort of has to start volunteering on a "municipal level" and work upwards.
I tried to get involved in a coin club as a contributor of time, effort and expense on many levels with the results that the "old boys club" would undermine the efforts because the new move was not there idea)that there is little interest shown to move forward and get "with the times".
I even received an award for being the contributor of the year.
As you say, it is "the old boys club" or in our clubs case, the "we want to control the club" boys (and girl).
So, some members just do not attend anymore. Others are unhappy or just do not care. They just come for the auction.
You have very strong comments about being a volunteer and getting involved.
There are those who want to, and do get involved, to simply get a "podium". And there are others who do their thing in another way and still help and promote the hobby. For example promoting the hobby to Kids, which I do whenever I get a chance. Sometimes at considerable expense. Remember, if there are no kids taking up the hobby, there will eventually be nobody to buy your / mine / our expensive coins in a couple of decades.
To be a volunteer does not have to be through publications and does not have to involve "politics". It just needs some action.
In order to contribute to publications, one has to be reasonably qualified to do so. Unfortunately, I am not qualified by my own judgment and knowledge of the actual numismatic Issues on hand.
It is easy for you as a highly educated person, who can and does connect the numismatic hobby with your profession, to understand and know about a metallurgical process and write about it.
It is not so easy, or even possible for me, as a only basically educated person, to come even close to your knowledge about the subject. All I know is that a coin is a piece of material, usually metal, and that a coin's appearance and property does determine some of its value. Beyond that, I know very little about Numismatics. I need to say here that I have learned tons from you, your friends, and others.

Still suggesting I should be a volunteer? If yes, then please tell me how, and I might consider it.

Is it your opinion that everyone should contribute because YOU are a regular contributor to the RCNA Journal and other publications?

Your contributions are well written and of great interest and are based on immense knowledge and understanding of the actual subject. I am sure that most readers thank you for it. I most certainly do as I always enjoy reading your articles.
But, did you ever just for a second think that many readers are just like me and have only a basic education? AND that some of us know swiddely-swat about how coins are actually "made", besides that they are struck on / in a coin press with intense pressure? And that many collectors know nothing about sleeves and collars etc.? However, they do not wish to look like dummies, so they say nothing.

Coins, the finished product, are a hobby and a financial investment for me. I know, most of you feel the same way. The investment in a coin has to be justified by its value.

My knowledge lies in my profession from which I retired by choice, some years back. Unfortunately my profession and knowledge does not fit in with numismatics as yours does.

Now, let me ask you another question:
How many coins, and or full or partially filled Whitman books, have you given away to kids for free in the last year to promote the hobby?
Well, my count is very interesting.
It does involve a different effort than writing an interesting article.
Is that perhaps another "kind" of volunteering?



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DEVLEC the Dec Canadian Coin & news is out and the ONLY correction notice is about a mistake over an Indian Treaty metal

Any one can become educated on collecting coins first read the right books to get you to where you want to be in this hobby. Like all hobby different people will have different levels and want to get different things out of a hobby. You can give away as many coins as you want or books my view is unless you are willing to educate and be there to answer all the question that will come up what are you doing to help the cause . I'm not an educated person but I'll tell you this, collectors like SSP Ottawa and other who I have talked to the first things they will tell you is you need to buy reference books and read them. The second thing is their is no stupid question when it comes to collecting coins.
When you give away coins and coin books do you also give them your e-mail address so they can contact you with their questions? If they ask a question that you don't know do you take down their e-mail address and let them know you don't know the answer but will find out and get back to them. If not then what help are you giving if your only filling the glass half full and leaving the other half for others to fill The future of collecting is in the hands of the older collectors and the willingness to pass down to the younger collectors what priceless knowledge that they have learned collecting. I can go out and give way coins to does it really help young collector if your not willing to educated them at the same time no it does not. By the sounds of it you and I want 2 different different things out of the same the hobby, and collect at a different level of knowledge. SPP Ottawa enjoys collects at a different level
the thing we all have in common is we enjoy collecting coins is that so bad of thing to have
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47P7, there are no educational requirements, for making an effort with writing. Not every topic has to be underlain with science or philosophy. Start small, with your coin club newsletter. For example, Scissel from this forum creates numismatic crossword puzzles for the younger numismatists for the CN Journal. Before than, he was compiling lists of collectable coins, such as a loony checklist. As for putting your own wisdom and thoughts into words, the peer review and editorial process is there to help you, not to make anyone look like a dummy. Most comments and reviews are based upon construction criticism and by no means personal or judgemental. The only assumption is that you have some basic reference material, and have researched the topic to the best of your ability. I am encouraging you to write about your passion - even an article about kids and coins, would be welcomed.

Being involved in your club is a great thing - I would suggest that you don't give up, if you are that passionate about the hobby. Sooner or later, those who seek the podium will eventually move on...

As for donations - "contributing" is not something measured in Whitman folders and coins. But the short answer is, lots!! I'd rather spend my time with a young numismatist at a coin show, than most dealers... I even make sure that the shows CCF participates in, has a good supply of Canadian coins for the kids.

My point is, it is easy to be an armchair critic. Whether you disagree with the RCNA President having a conflict of interest, or if you disagree with the auction house the RCNA uses for their annual convention. But remember, Canada is a pretty small community in numismatics, and we cannot afford to finger point when the hobby overall, is benefitting from their time.
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