Help With An Unknown China Kwang Tung 20 Cents

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Smallcentguy Pillar of the Community Canada 1984 Posts	Posted 11/28/2014 12:52 pm I have been going through an old collection of Chinese coins again trying to figure out the last few coins in the lot. The collection did yield a few treasures. This one has me stumped. The Legend says Kwang Tung 20 Cents but I cannot match it with anything in the NGC catalogue or on ebay. Anyone know what it is? This came from a collection that sat undisturbed for 50 years+ so I am 100% sure it is not a modern forgery. Report this Post to the Staff

allranger Pillar of the Community United States 1391 Posts	Posted 11/28/2014 1:11 pm I can't say if it is authentic (the second picture has a squishy look to it, similar to a cast coin. But the first picture seems to have a die break in it, going through "TWENTY" and "KWANG"), but it looked similar to one in my collection so I had a look. Republic of China, 20 cents: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22630.html It looks like it may have been defaced, as I almost think I can see the "20" on the reverse. As far as the date, the area where it is recorded is rather worn and I can not make it out in your picture. You could try putting a piece of paper over and gently rubbing with some pencil lead at an angle. A rubbing may reveal enough of the characters to read establish the date. Edited by allranger 11/28/2014 1:17 pm Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 11/28/2014 4:37 pm Here is a picture of what it would have looked like originally. Note that the year may be different from what is shown. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
Smallcentguy Pillar of the Community Canada 1984 Posts	Posted 11/28/2014 5:08 pm Thanks for the responses, but there are earlier Kwang Tung 20 cent coins with the dragon (not with the large 20 Cents) but with a different legend. This is not a cast coin I am pretty sure based on the look of the reeding on the edge and the surfaces. It is just worn. I suspect that this coin is from the era immediately before the coins you have posted (c 1900-1910) but I suspect that I need a more comprehensive reference than the NGC on-line source. . Report this Post to the Staff
allranger Pillar of the Community United States 1391 Posts	Posted 11/28/2014 6:56 pm I checked my catalog and I see two silver coins from Kwang Tung that are of a denomination of 20 cents that fit your coin. One of them (with the dragon, Y# 201 ) is vastly different as both the Chinese and English legends are dissimilar to your example. There are also several different coins of a similar type for the other providences, all from the early Republic period, (which your guess of c.1900-1910 would put at the tail end of the empire). On your coin you have: å¹´æ°'è¯ä¸ ( indicate missing characters), which would put the calendar in the Republic of China. I have been wrong many times before with Eastern Asian coins, but I think we can say this is early Republic. I am curious as to what differences you find between the coin that was posted and the one you have? Edited by allranger 11/28/2014 6:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Smallcentguy Pillar of the Community Canada 1984 Posts	Posted 11/28/2014 8:56 pm I am not sure what you mean by "the coin that was posted". You mean the one you linked? The one you linked is totally different....one side ( I guess the reverse?) is not the same. I have had the ska experience on the cataloguing....this coin does not seem to nbe in the Kwang Tung listing. I am wondering if this is either a contemporary counterfeit or whether it is an uncatalogued coin. Report this Post to the Staff
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