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New Member
Canada
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So I came across a 1941 penny in an old collection. Too damaged to have even been in circulation. Die cracks, extra metal, prints of other pennies on it. It even has a misprint on the back of it. Anyone have any opinions on what it might be worth?   |
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Valued Member
United States
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It is just a damaged penny that is in a copper ring of some kind.
Worth 1ยข
Edited by rottnrog
12/01/2014 11:35 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2519 Posts |
It's been put into what appears to be a bezel. Just a damaged penny, no "misprint". Worth 1 cent (or melt, if you're feeling optimistic).
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
I would be hesitant to touch this with someone else's 10 ft pole
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New Member
 Canada
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The only reason I'm hesitant to dismiss it as just a damaged coin is the "942" backwards print on the back.
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Moderator
 United States
16679 Posts |
The term, "misprinted" does not apply to metal (coins).
This is a paper term.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2519 Posts |
Someone put a put another penny on this one and squeezed it with a vice, or someone put a penny on top of this one and used a hammer.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1747 Posts |
Remember that they would not be minting 2 separate years at the same time 1941 & 1942 so this could never happen at the mint without some help. At best this could be a back door coin, but it is way too damaged to even consider this. Unless you know the history of the collector who owned it. Did he work at the mint? It does seem odd that someone would put the beat up coin into the bezel, normally you would see a fairly nice coin in there. My money is saying PMD. |
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Canada
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*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
What you are looking at is a normal 1941 cent, which had an original diameter of 19.05 mm, that was forcefully pressed into a cut piece of copper water pipe. The pipe looks like it was 3/4 inch size with an inside diameter that is slightly smaller than the original cent at 18.923 mm (Type K copper piping). A 1942 cent was used as a barrier or as a flange to hammer and force the 1941 cent into the piece of cut copper pipe flat and flush to the copper ring, pressing the design in mirror image into the coin. The outer copper pipe has also been hammered and reworked from both sides, flattening and expanding the outside diameter. Note the difference in colour too - the outer ring (pipe) is pure copper and the small cent is bronze.
Someone was having fun here, but obviously they did not care about the condition of the cent, as it appears to have taken quite a beating...
That said, I do know a few collectors who like stuff like this, and would easily pay $2 or so for it - 200% is not bad, for what it would be worth unharmed in the same grade!!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would say that whoever created these had honed his skills by the time he got to mine. Mine has Two Cents or maybe even three put together with obverses at each end. Maybe he was making a Magician's coin of a sort. Funny how these things end up together again 70 odd years later......   Edited by Smallcentguy
12/02/2014 10:35 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I think we should welcome our new member to CCF...  |
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Forum Kid
Canada
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welcome yes indeed, however the above opinions are correct, and I agree with the pipe or piece of copper, the penny is normal.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Amazing how much "useful" time people had way back in the day !
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The fact that we're seeing 2 such similar coins here leads me to suspect that there was a definite reason for producing such items. I seem to remember that back in the '40's or early '50's they would, in a pinch, take an old beer cap and flatten it out into a valve cover (I think) for their cars, a makeshift repair that at least got the car rolling until they had the means to get it fixed properly. Could there be something along those lines here? I don't necessarily mean engine parts, as these pennies and rings are pretty beat up, but I mean some other purpose? Old pennies were also used as temporary (and very dangerous) fuse replacements in early home fuse boxes. Any thoughts?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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"Definite reason for producing such items".................hmm lets see ah yes! Prison inmates, on break , from producing licence plates!  !! |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Gotta keep those metal-working skills sharp! Lol!
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