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Need To Know If 1737 8 Reales Coin Is Authentic. Please Help

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I got this coin online and I would like to know if it is authentic. I took some pics and please let me know if you are familiar with these coins
Thanks


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 Posted 12/03/2014  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's generally risky business buying such online. That said, nothing visually screams "counterfeit" to me, but the first step in a process of authentication would be to weigh it.

Edit: Didn't notice that huge "S" at first, certainly not right.
Colligo ergo sum
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 Posted 12/03/2014  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a totally fake cast, it has that mushy grainy look.
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SilverbytheOZ
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Have you weighed the coin? Your coin would make me very nervous. The "S" in HISPAN is completely incorrect and the edge looks wrong to me, the design should look like tulips. The surfaces may indicate a cast coin, examine them under a powerful magnification or using a very high resolution scan or photo, if they appear to have small imperfections like bubbles, that is a bad sign. I have attached a scan of one of my 1737 pillars so you can compare the details and the "S" that I spoke of.

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Some of the surface appearance can be explained by rough environmental conditions, but that super-sized S in HISPAN and the "I" that is mis-shapen and slanted at an odd angle are impossible to ignore. Looks like a pretty bad fake to me.
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 Posted 12/03/2014  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverbytheOz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight: 22.7 g
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^ nail in the coffin right there
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Yep - not of the period either IMO. That is a WILD LOOKING "S".

JPL
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 Posted 12/03/2014  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight is the first thing to check if you have the coin, that's off limit :)
From the picture : mushy look, wrong fonts, wrong details (the o on MO is always clean), wrong rim pattern ...
That's a bad copy :)
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YEP....I emailed the person I bought it from and I am returning it! Thank you for all your help...you guys are AWESOMENESS PERSONIFIED!!
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Nah, we all just enjoy our hobby, and enjoy helping others to avoid crooks (which all of us stumbled upon once in a while ...)
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That one made my counterfeit watch list the day it was posted - recently manufactured (post 1950) Numismatic Forgery that I see as a melt coin. Of course if it is not silver (as I suspect) I would keep it around for fun but only pay $5.
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