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Came across these while going through a group of coins that I inherited. Is this a broken die/dies? Lots of raised areas in the words STATES and HALF. Never saw one with both dies broken especially that bad. 1973 Kennedy half:   This 1971 D Ike has no copper around the edge. It rings different when dropped compared to other copper nickel Ikes. Could it be all nickel or struck on a 40% silver blank? Picture isn't great but it is definetly a Denver mint mark.   The two to compare color:  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks ETA: Would these be worth having graded? Edited by theblackcat
12/21/2014 10:30 pm
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To me, the half looks like it was cut in half then soldered back together. Not sure about the Ike, maybe plated after it left the mint.   |
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It looks like someone cut the Kennedy in half and welded it back together. The raised surfaces you see is probably just splatter from the welding process.
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I thought it looked cut/welded as well, some of what I also thought was slag looks stamped in under a loop though. Seems crazy someone would do that for $.50 (wife thinks a jeweler may have done it as practice?). As for the Ike, if it was plated would that cause it to ring differently than a standard coin when dropped? How could I test it without damaging the coin incase it was a genuine error? These were pulled from change by an elderly woman over the years (over 15 years ago as they've been in a basement for at least that long).
Thanks for the replies and welcome!
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12/21/2014 11:06 pm
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I don't think they struck silver clad coins at the Denver mint though. Did any casinos plate the dollars since many were used there? If a casino did this it would probably be widely known, I can't find anything pointing in that direction but it seems possible. I know some 40% blanks were accidentally shipped to Denver in 1974 and 1977 but never heard of it happening in 1971. I'm not lucky enough to find anything rare, as the welded Kennedy proves but it would be nice to know the story behind this. ETA: Just found this post, looks similar to mine. He never posted back the weight which I assume means it was plated. I don't have a small scale but if I get access to one I'll update this thread. Thanks again! https://goccf.com/t/157861Edited by theblackcat
12/22/2014 01:18 am
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to CCF fellow Michigander,where abouts in the mit are you? The half looks like PMD. One way to test the Dollar is the tissue test. You may also want to weight it with a scale that goes down to .001 grams. If your colors are right in your pics the Ike doesn't catch my eye as being silver. John1  |
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Weigh the dollar. Unlike the half dollar the Weight Tolerances for the coppernickel clad and 40% silver clad dollar do not quite overlap. The maximum weight for a coppernickel clad dollar is 23.58 grams. If it weighs more than that then it would be worthwhile to run further tests. A specific gravity test would be conclusive. |
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John1, thanks for the welcome, I'm located in Emmett Twp. near Yale. I looked up the tissue test and it passed, looked light compared to the copper nickel clad dollar. I suspect that if it was plated in silver it would pass just as a silver or silver clad dollar would. As to the color, that is just a cheap camera, the paper in the background is bright white, it looks blue in the pics. I need to get a scale that does decimals in grams, I don't have access to anything like that right now but I'll update when I do. I don't expect it to be anything special. Thanks again for the help! |
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I am not familiar with your location. I am in Aranac county. John1 |
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