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Is My CA Fractional Gold Coin A Replica?

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Hi everyone, I was just looking at some coins in my parents' safety deposit box and came across what appears to be (per my googling) a California fractional gold coin. But I read elsewhere on this site that if the back of the coin has the California bear on it, the coin is replica. Would someone mind checking out the images I took, and letting me know what this is? I collected coins as a kid, and still have my collection in another safety deposit box, so I'm not sure I'd sell this coin in any case, as it is kind of neat -- but am still curious what it is, what it's worth, etc. Thanks everyone.

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 Posted 01/09/2015  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pytellc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately yes, anything with a bear is a replica struck in the 20s I believe.
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 Posted 01/09/2015  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakesis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL oh well. It's funny because I'm pretty sure my grandparents got this from somewhere a long time ago. Probably some guy who cheated them.
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If it's a replica or a souvenir token, does that mean it isn't gold? Or was real gold used to make replicas?
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I have seen some 12kt examples, but I'm not sure about this one.
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Keepsake value only unfortunately. Plated with a very thin layer.
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 Posted 01/09/2015  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aye if there's a bear on it, it's highly unlikely to be authentic and could honestly be made of anything.

Apologies!
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Oh well, thanks everyone for the prompt feedback.
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I'm not sure if yours is real or not but this might help.
Please check this site:
http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewart...ticleID=1378



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Yep, just read that, the bear is definitely there. Well, before I throw it out, I'll have someone look at it, along with the other coins (eventually). But it does pretty much seem to be a fake. Thanks again.
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 Posted 01/10/2015  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johntookit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they are real, they have value.

http://coins.ha.com/c/search-result...2699&No=3600

Take it to your LCS, coin club, or coin show and get more info.
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Gold used to be $35 an ounce when replica gold coins were made so there is always a possibility
that real gold was used.
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Many of these tokens or jewelers charms were made out of 22kt gold. They were usually made as souvenirs and had little mining scenes or "Cal-Gold" on them. They were made as jewelry or to be incorporated into jewelry. Most, however, were made of polished brass or thinly plated 10kt gold over brass. (Think genuine American Gold Buffalo replica coin, plated in REAL 22kt GOLD. Yours for only $19.95)

Unfortunately the bear reverse was used almost exclusively on the brass or plated tokens. So more than likely it is just a souvenir.
Before you write it off, every coin in my collection doesn't have monetary value. Ask around in your family, your grandparents kept it for a reason. And it doesn't necessarily have to be because they thought it was real.
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That's a good point, Denco. It would be interesting to see if anyone knows why we even have that coin. Generally speaking, my family didn't collect coins (though they have a decent number of old silver dollars and the like). And for some reason they have 3 gold coins - well, two gold coins and this one.
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don't toss it, it is still a fun collectible.
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