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How Far Back Can We Go? Third Edition! Ended At 1487 Waiting On 1486

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This was my 1625 in the second edition
Good to see him again.
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ANd here my 1624 from the 2nd edition:
3 kreutzer
Ferdinand II (1578-1639)
FERDI.II.D.G.R.I.S.A.G.H.B.REX.
Ferdinandus secundus dei gratia romanorum imperator semper augustus Germaniae Hungariae Bohemiae rex
Ferdinand II, by Gods grace, everlasting emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, Germany, Hungary and Bohemia
ARCHID.A.D.BUR.CO.TY624.
archidux austriae Burgundiae comes tyrol
archduke of Austria, Burgundy and count of Tyrol
Vienna mint
mintmaster : Balthasar Zwirnmer
(ic) inverted Y : V. Feldegg
Herinek 1023-1037
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Germany/Augsburg -- 1623 2 kreuzer:

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I guess that's a pine cone (or pineapple)?
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FERDINANDUS II ROManorum IMPerator Semper AUGustus
AUGUSTA VINDELICORUM
sOMETHING LIKE / http://herbison.com/someoldcoins.or...r/g/s082.htm
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1623
1 denar
Hungary
Ferdinand II (1578-1637)
Madonna with child on crescent moon
FER.II.D.G.R.I.S.A.GE.H.B.R. :
FERDINAND SECUNDUS DEI GRATIA ROMANORVM IMPERATOR SEMPER AVGVSTVS GERMANIAE HUNGARIAE BOHEMIAE REX :
Ferdinand the second, by the grace of God, everlasting emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, king of Germania, Hungary and Bohemia
PATRO.HVNGA.1623
patrona of Hungary
mint KB : Kremnitz
Huszár 1203
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1623
two similar coins
escalin (schelling)
Philips IV, (1621-1665)
Duchy of Brabant, minted in Brussels
PHIL.IIII.D.G.HISP.ET.INDIAR.REX :
PHILIPPUS IIII DEI GRATIA HISPANIARUM ET INDIARUM REX :
Philips IV, by Gods grace, king van Spain and India
ARCHID.AUS.DUX.BURG.BR.Z :
ARCHIDUX AUSTRIA DUX BURGUNDIE ET BRABANTIAE :
Archduke of Austria, duke of Burgubdy and Brabant etc
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Philips IV, (1621-1665)
Duchy of Brabant, minted in Brussels or Maastricht
PHIL.IIII.D.G.HISP.ET.INDIAR.REX :
PHILIPPUS IIII DEI GRATIA HISPANIARUM ET INDIARUM REX :
Philips IV, by Gods grace, king van Spain and India
ARCHID.AUS.DUX.BURG.BR.Z :
ARCHIDUX AUSTRIA DUX BURGUNDIE ET BRABANTIAE :
Archduke of Austria, duke of Burgubdy and Brabant
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OK, so it's apparently a cedar nut rather than a pine cone or pineapple.
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Poland -- 1622 3 polker:

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1622 Zurich Batzen. Almost missed this. For some reason I remembered it as 1621.

1622 CIVITATIS IMPERIALIS

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I'm actually not sure if this coin is 1622 or 1621. (It's a two-year type, so it cannot be anything else.) I personally believe it's 1622, so I'm posting it under this date, but it's hard to say.

I also have no idea if it's real (or, at least, that it's not a contemporary fake). It's about the same color as it looks like in the photo... or maybe a little less purplish (in case you want to do color correction, the background is supposed to be blank white paper), but what little catalogues I've seen all say "silver".

Maybe it's actually billon; I've never actually seen a photo of any example of this type except mine (and the low-resolution grayscale picture in Krause).

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Bohemia, 1/4 kreuzer 1622(?). Uniface (I included a low-res photo of the "other side" for completeness). Supposedly silver; your guess as to whether it looks like silver.

I asked for the identification of this coin in one of my first CCF posts ever, over four years ago. Sadly, the replies in that thread still basically sum up what I know about this mysterious coin today.
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@january1may, challenge accepted!
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You said you think it's probably a 1622- is there a date on it somewhere?
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You said you think it's probably a 1622- is there a date on it somewhere?


Yes, I believe the date (22) is at 11-12 hours.
It's just that, with so much extra metal all over the place (die breaks? if so, that die must've been in a really bad state) and awful reference pictures (when there are any), I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly.
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Okay, I see it now. I'm pretty sure you're right about the date (and the die state for that matter).
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