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In truth, it could very well be the same source. The guy responsible was doing it for over a year.
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IMHO, the best weapon you can have to protect yourself from a Chinese fake Morgan CC is a Van Allen-Mallis ( VAM) attribution book. The CC's were lower mintage coins and and are easier to attribute in my opinion. Not as many die pairings as Philly or New Orleans. |
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I, for one, must say thanks to CopperCastle for posting this thread. Thank you Nickel Guy. It's always nice to know other's are learning new things with me. I honestly didn't know if the certs were tied to the year or not, but did notice that they appeared to follow that pattern. I was under the assumption that this was the case...but you know what they say about assuming. Edited by CopperCastle
02/14/2015 4:39 pm
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I honestly didn't know if the certs were tied to the year or not, but did notice that they appeared to follow that pattern. I was under the assumption that this was the case...but you know what they say about assuming. The first two digits of the serial number on the certificate are the same as the year on the coin. The rest of the serial number is not relevant as the numbers are not traceable. An 1884 CC will have a serial number beginning with 84. Dealers who have large inventories of GSA packaged dollars usually take the coins out of the boxes and store them and the certificates on shelves and keep the coins in the safe. It happens quite frequently that the wrong certificate gets put in the box when a coin is sold so that in itself does not make the coin a fake. Knowing that, a collector needs to educate him/her self on the characteristics of counterfeit dollars and slabs to protect themselves. |
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Knowing that, a collector needs to educate him/her self on the characteristics of counterfeit dollars and slabs to protect themselves.  100% Thank you for the clarification. |
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The first two digits of the serial number on the certificate are the same as the year on the coin. This is only true for those GSA CC dollars in the holders that say Carson City Uncirculated Silver Dollar. The certificates for the holders that say Carson City Silver Dollar are NOT linked to the date on the coin |
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One of my "Uncirculated CC" GSAs actually has the cert for a regular GSA glued to the lid (no numbers on card), along with the "explanation card". So, I guess one of its previous owners got the coin boxes/ GSA coins mixed up at sometime.  |
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A similar thing happened to me in the past. I had three GSA dollars, 1882, 83, 84 and took them out of the SDB to take photos of them. During that process I must have mixed up the certificates. When I took them to a coin show, someone asked to see them and opened all three boxes. They kindly pointed out the error as they moved the certificates back to the appropriate boxes before purchasing them.
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The certificates for the holders that say Carson City Silver Dollar are NOT linked to the date on the coin These are not true GSA dollars but telemarketer facsimiles. |
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It's always been my understanding that the coins in GSA holders marked "Uncirculated" came with the numbered certificates, and those lacking that designation were accompanied by the plainer, unnumbered ones.
I'm not sure what the above reference to "telemarketer facsimiles" refers to, whether unnumbered certificates or certain holders, but I'm not aware of any such being reproduced except fairly recently by the Chinese as out and out counterfeits.
Colligo ergo sum
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These are not true GSA dollars but telemarketer facsimiles. Not correct, the GSA had four different"groups" of dollars that they sold ((circulated dollars, Unc non-CC dollar, CC dollars that they did not consider Unc, and Unc CC dollars) Each of these four groups had their own style of certificate. The ones for the CC dollars that didn't make Unc do NOT have serial numbers. |
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I knew that what I said was not correct but I got the information that I wanted and was not completely sure of which should have been included in an earlier post.
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Posted 02/14/2015 3:49 pm
