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UK Queen Victoria 1887 Sixpence Or Shilling?

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 Posted 03/05/2015  04:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jibri to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

I am cofuse about this coin is it shilling or sixpence?

Thanks

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 Posted 03/05/2015  05:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is your coin: a 6 Pence http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4722.html
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 Posted 03/05/2015  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A shilling will be 23.5mm and weigh 5.65g
A sixpence will be 19mm and weigh 3g
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 Posted 03/05/2015  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ooh, ooh, I know the answer to this one.

I made a graphic a long time ago to illustrate the differences.

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Based on that graphic, yours is a shilling.
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Thanks all for your input and especially thanks to SAP for illustration

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Did you know that design of sixpence was withdrawn because people guilded them and passed them off as Half Sovereigns back in the day? well worth doing for a coin worth 20 times more than a sixpence.
However, one important design change escaped attention: the new sixpence bore a striking resemblance to the half sovereign, as both featuring a crowned shield containing the Royal Arms.
With the same thickness and the same diameter, the only significant difference between the two was the metal in which they were struck, the half sovereign being gold and the sixpence silver. Fraudsters set about gold plating the new Jubilee sixpence, passing them off as gold half sovereigns - worth twenty times as much!
After only a few months of issue, the sixpence was withdrawn from circulation and destroyed. It was replaced by a new design which featured the value "six pence" emblazoned in words on the reverse, which remained in circulation until 1892. '
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Did you know that design of sixpence was withdrawn because people guilded them and passed them off as Half Sovereigns back in the day?

Yes.

It was a particularly embarrassing situation for The Royal Mint, given that the Americans had created a similar problem for themselves only five years earlier: the 1883 "racketeer nickel", face value five cents but, when gilded, resembled a gold $5 coin.
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