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Pillar of the Community
United States
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These turned up at the swap meet (where I hadn't been for a bit over a year, as it's a long drive) this morning. Both crisp and apparently completely uncirculated. I guess I'd better start going more often. Poland 500 Marek, 194mm x 123mm. Don't know if there's too much value to this one.   South Russia 5000 Ruble, 229mm x 115mm. Even though the Bolsheviks had already seized power, notice the defiantly imperial, religious, and burgeoisie elements of the design. Saw one of these listed online for €140, but don't know in reality what sort of market there actually is for them.   Colligo ergo sum
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Valued Member
United States
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beautiful notes. I'm going to start looking closer at what is available here.
is it ok to ask what you paid for them in American money?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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is it ok to ask what you paid for them in American money? Suffice to say he was asking $10 apiece, and it's almost a requirement that you haggle any such price down. Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I always admire the artistry on these old notes. Your South Russia 5000 rubles is from the State Bank -
Gosudarstvenniy Bank - and is a PS419d. Depicting both Mercury and St George. Euros 140.- seems a little steep. I think US$20.- would be more realistic.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Both are nice notes, classic designs. Not rare or scarce, but getting harder to find. These will appreciate in value.
The South Russia note is typical of the anti-Bolsheviki issues of the Civil War years. Romanov crests, Saints and shield-bearing heroes saving the Motherland, that kind of stuff.
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Valued Member
United States
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Very cool! I've always liked the larger notes. They're just so different from what is in use these days.
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Pillar of the Community
Hong Kong
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Do anyone know what could actually buy by 5000 rubles at that era?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's an interesting question. Antebellum 1 rouble (I employ the classic spelling here) coinage contained about 75% of the silver content of the "crown" sized coins of other nations, and that is probably representative of its approximate valuation vis-a-vis the American dollar or Austrian thaler of the period. But by 1919, with the authority of the new Bolshevik government being seriously challenged and its survival still uncertain, and considering this was paper and not precious metal, I'd expect that the rouble had become severely devalued. Whether a 5000 roubles note would buy a loaf of bread or a pair of shoes I can't say, but I'm pretty certain that by then it was no longer a huge sum of money if measured by being convertible into thousands of ounces of silver as would have previously been the case.
Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
Hong Kong
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Agreed, there might be two different system of currencies - notes and silver rouble.
Today, we can still buy 6-7 notes of 1 to 500 roubles of 1920s at a price of US$20, but a 1920s silver rouble may cost US50-60. The number of rouble notes printed might be much more than metal rouble; they must have different values - two paying systems definitely.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great notes! Good deal that you purchased them  IF you ever decide to part with the 5000 ruble note I'd sure like to be on your CONTACT HIM list; would fit perfectly in my collection.  Edited to add: How far is this swap meet from Mississippi? Edited by techwriter
10/22/2015 10:06 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's another from 1919, a 10,000 ruble note picked up today, 121mm x 170mm, in circulated condition. Definitely a Bolshevik issue, notice the "Workers of the world, unite!" exhortation in four languages at the top and bottom of the front.   Colligo ergo sum
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Wow, those are huge! (And very cool!)
Were these actually meant to be circulated? Or bank-transfer-type? We'd have to fold those 4 times to fit in American wallets!
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Moderator
 United States
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Wish I held onto my note collection, seeing these makes me want to start collecting again. Very nice notes.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This series of notes are referred to as Babylonians because of the multiple languages. And it is 6 languages including Arabic and Chinese on the sides.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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...seeing these makes me want to start collecting again. No time like the present...  Edited by CelticKnot
02/17/2016 12:22 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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On the 1919 10,000 ruble note it is interesting to see, by his signature, that the Cashier - A. Afanasyev - appears to have survived the revolution. His previous 'boss' Bank President - I. Shipov - did not!
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