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India? Any Info Appreciated | Bull And Horseman Jital

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It's a "bull and horseman" jital from mediaeval Afghanistan. Top pic is the "horseman" side, upside-down; bottom pic is the "bull" side, needs to be rotated about 120 degrees anticlockwise.

This really old thread shows several different types, from the early fine style to the late degraded style; I'm afraid my skills aren't up to giving you a more narrow date range for yours than "mid-period".
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It's a "bull and horseman" jital from mediaeval Afghanistan


So this is not from India?
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Hard to say; they were made in what is now Afghanistan, Pakistan and far northern India. The Shahi kings of Kabul were one of the more prolific issuers of the types where the designs are still recognizable.
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OK lets see if someone can date it.
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That's good info.
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Just asking "any more info" ?
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The coin reads Sri Samanta Deva. These coins are considered post Shahi after about AD 1030. The Hindu Shahi's that issued this coin were probably Turkic and Hunnic in origin. These Kingdoms lived in relative harmony with many different very different religions, major populations where both Buddhist and Hindu with heavy Greek (Kushan) influence. The language on your coin is Devanegari which is indeed an Indian script, and it would be safe to refer to this as an Indian coin but today's India is a much smaller place than the India of old. People are always on the fence about what is and what is not an Indian coin. I am unsure exactly where your coin was minted but it would have been in Afghanistan, Pakistan and North India. A very interesting and under appreciated coin. Retail, your coin is about $10.
I helped you out a little with your photo.
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Here is mine for comparison. Same type but probably a little early considering the apparently higher metal quality.



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Thanks ancientnoob, I had every thing what you said except the language, Devanegari
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This is from a drachm of the Omkara Monestary. Notice the one letter that us westerners have a remote chance of recognizing.

"OM" AD 1150-1300

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Hello Ancientnoob:
At the first look it seems like a "Gadhaiya Paisa" to me. It is somewhat thick usually. Made of either copper or billon, this has a crude face of may be the king on one side and a stylised fire alter on the other.
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Hello vermontensium:
You may please try this link for the bull and horseman coin

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/Nu...man%20Jitals
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Hello Ancientnoob:
You may please try the link below. This might give you some information

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/in...topic=4468.0
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Thanks drnsreedhar those are earlier pieces. These monastic piecescare very rare. Check out

https://goccf.com/t/157163
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