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Valued Member
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Being a chicago or near chicago person the columbian exposition coins have peaked my interest. I have bought a few lower grade 50c coins,but am really interested in the Isabella . This one is a bit more expensive, so I want to get some info before I jump in. I notice on PGCS the price has been dropping on these coins. Why is this trend occurring, and are there any pitfalls or things I should avoid in these coins?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As for value dropping, IMO that's happening all across the Early Commemorative market (although you couldn't tell that by looking at ebay). And as with any better coins authentication and certification of original surfaces is recommended. You can do your own grading. Buy a slabbed coin.
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Valued Member
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Thanks for the quick response. Slabed it is.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Quote: I notice on PGCS the price has been dropping on these coins. Why is this trend occurring, and are there any pitfalls or things I should avoid in these coins? The US commemorative coin market is in the "down" part of its cycle at the moment (and has been for a few years). The PCGS price guide reflects this. It's important to note, however, that when truly choice and original examples of most of the issues come available on the market (especially at auctions) they still command strong prices. What is the target grade for the coin you are after? Circulated or mint state? Are you looking for a brilliant piece or one that is toned? With a few more details regarding your intentions, we can provide you with more informed guidance.
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The Isabella Quarter dollar is available in the market across a broad range of circulated/MS grades. What specifically are you targeting? David
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Valued Member
United States
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The Isabella Quarter dollar can be found nice without much effort. There is a nice price increase at the MS65 level. I would be patient and find a nice example with good eye appeal. Here is a MS64 I used to own: 
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Valued Member
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I'm going to answer with another question. I'm very new to commemoratives so I don't have a type set built up, just a few 50c columbian expo coins in the xf/ au range. So what would be the best bang for my buck in terms of maintaining value or better yet increasing in value. I don't think ms64-65 is in my price range though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well you can really find some nice MS62-63 Isabella's with nice looking appeal at reasonable prices. At those grades you will eventually see gradual price increases more so than the lower grades. Also I would strongly advise that you use this web site to find out the FMV (fair market value) of any coins you may consider buying http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml I've been actively been collecting commemoratives trying to complete the Classic and Modern Commemorative series. I think I bit off more than I can chew cause that is a real daunting task not to mention expensive. I'll be taking a dirt bath before I complete that but me having fun trying. Something else to consider the 50 State Quarters are actually circulating commemorative as well as the National Park Quarters. So are the Presidential dollars until the mint a few years ago also cut off sending them to banks for circulation. Now they are only available from the mint. Good luck to you in whatever avenue you decide to pursue in your collecting. Oh yes one thing I learned early in my collecting...Buy The Best You Can Afford!
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Quote:Something else to consider the 50 State Quarters are actually circulating commemorative as well as the National Park Quarters. So are the Presidential dollars until the mint a few years ago also cut off sending them to banks for circulation. These aren't really "commemorative sets" in the same way the classic and modern commemorative coins are - they are more a topical or thematic series without any ties to specific anniversary dates.
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Quote: So what would be the best bang for my buck in terms of maintaining value or better yet increasing in value. With all due respect ... this is a question that is difficult to answer. Experienced collectors of the classic commemorative coin series (in fact most coin series) ... do not consider the collection as an investment and do not target acquisitions as a way to gain financial appreciation. There is of course a hope that some coins will appreciate in value ... and over the long term the best appreciation has generally been seen in the true high end examples. If you want an Isabella for your collection ... the best price appreciation potential lies in a certified MS66/MS67 CAC coin ... which you have stated is currently beyond your means to acquire. Soooooo ... what will you be happy with as a novice commemorative collector? I humbly suggest an honestly circulated XF example ... such a coin would likely have pleasing surfaces and sufficient detail to elucidate the entire original intent of the issue. Such an example is relatively affordable and available ... key points to consider. David
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@commems no they are not in the sense of being issued from the mint as a Commemorative per say but they are referred to as circulating commemoratives. Ipso facto the State Quarters do depict what each state is known for and if they were all the same then you argument would hold water. Each National Park has a history that is in each coins description as well as the Presidential dollars. Maybe I'm not a purist as you are with commemoratives but I do respect your opinion but in turn I'm entitled to mine and believe me I'm not the only one who feels the same way. We have all heard that in coin collecting there is no set way in which one must collect. We all observe the guidelines but all add our personal touches to our collections. So let us both be happy in our appreciation of Commemoratives and appreciate the fact that if we were all the same this hobby would be pretty boring.
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Well, he actually said (emphasis mine)... Quote: These aren't really "commemorative sets" in the same way the classic and modern commemorative coins are - they are more a topical or thematic series without any ties to specific anniversary dates. I love my coins, but not in the same way that I love my family. Love is still love though. 
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Valued Member
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Ok, now I feel kind of bad placing investment values on this. Obviously to people on this forum commemoratives are much, much more than that, so my apologies. Let me put the question a different way. Being a newbie I don't want to be stuck with the proverbial pig in a poke. I'm trying not to get a coin that is way under valued compared to other Isabella coins. So let me give you a concrete example. I found a ANACS slabbed AU50 Isabella for $299 on ebay. I hope this link works http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/351323369330It's sold by ghengis_coins. I could do this. Is it a winner or do I keep looking 
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Please don't take me wrong you coin that you are considering is a nice looking coin just I think you could get better for the same money or a bit more. Just my humble opinion. Good Luck with whatever you choose to do.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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@BadToTheBone: I wasn't trying to start a "fight" or disparage the way you or anyone else collects - I'm sorry if my comments came across that way. I certainly have always supported the concept of - "Collect what you like and make no excuses about it!" I'm sure some folks here shake their heads when they see some of the items I collect.
We all need to be happy with our collecting pursuits - I was just trying to make the distinction between the various circulating topical series struck by the Mint and the two annual sponsored commemorative programs.
@Wizzy1: Please don't worry about asking "investment" questions here - many of us are happy to help fellow collectors in this area.
The coin you linked to is a reasonable AU coin at a reasonable price. As BTTB pointed out, there are a good number of AU Isabella quarters out there from which you can select for your collection.
If your current budget has you focusing on AU coins, I would suggest finding one that has a "look" that you find particularly attractive - whether it be toned or brilliant. An AU Isabella is generally not considered an "investment grade" coin - its price fluctuations are almost always small in comparison to higher-grade pieces and its upside potential is relatively limited. Because of this, I would suggest finding one you like at a price below $400 and not worrying too much about its investment potential. Just my thoughts...
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