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Pillar of the Community
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Stumbled across this today, and posting here for information only, if you're in the U.S. you absolutely do not want to be ordering any of these, and their importation may well be illegal in other countries, too (and certainly unethical evrywhere). The lesson is that the forging of original looking packaging (& likely certificates of authenticity also) is now in play.
See: http://asnypin.en.made-in-china.com/product/DMoJhkQdnSpb/China-United-States-Mint-2014-Hall-of-Fame-Baseball-Coin-ASNY-JL-coin-13060101-.html Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss
03/29/2015 2:25 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't disagree that this could be confusing to some, particularly the less-educated coin collectors around. But it's pretty clear what you're (potentially) buying from the web page. The "coin" doesn't even appear to be convex/concave from the photo.
Oh and if the "made-in-china.com" domain name isn't a giveaway, I don't know what is.
I take your point though. Buyer BEWARE.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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CelticKnot - This is a source (the actual manufacturer) with a minimum order of 100 pieces, which probably would go to someplace outside China from where they'll be resold individually via ebay, and that's when an individual will get defrauded.
Colligo ergo sum
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03/29/2015 2:51 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Unlike the U.S. Mint versions, you can have them custom ordered up to 3 inches in diameter.  "Product Description 2014 hall of fame baseball coin, 3D soft enamel coin 1. Customized coins are available2. Material available: Copper, bronze, iron or zinc alloy 3. Size (diameter): 1-1/2 to 3 inches 4. Thickness: Between 1.5 to 3.5mm 5. Coloring: Soft enamel, imitation hard enamel or without coloring 6. Plating: Gold, silver, antique gold, antique silver, antique bronze 7. Epoxy coating: Optional 8. Olor reference: Pantone color chart 9. OEM and ODM orders are welcome 10. Packing: 1 piece/polybag 100 pieces/big polybag" Edited by oih82w8
03/29/2015 4:44 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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This has been going on for modern "collector" coins of other countries (e.g., Canada) for a number of years. I'm somewhat surprised it took the counterfeiters this long to target a US Mint commemorative coin. Maybe the Baseball HOF coins were the first, in recent times, to be popular enough for it to make sense. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: This is a source (the actual manufacturer) with a minimum order of 100 pieces, which probably would go to someplace outside China from where they'll be resold individually via ebay, and that's when an individual will get defrauded. I understand. Still... buyer beware. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Let me scare you a bit more. I found this item browsing a directory of Chinese manufacturers/suppliers of coins/medals/tokens. There are 4,583 such firms listed, so I've barely scratched the surface yet. Consider further how many others beyond these may be operating in the shadows.
Edit: In delving farther down the list, the products offered have tended to devolve into keychains and other trinkets whose only relation to coins is that both are made of metal, so perhaps it's not quite as bad as I was thinking. But it's bad enough.
Colligo ergo sum
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03/31/2015 1:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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That's what you get when you deal with a Communist country.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd say at present they're "Communist" in name only. The "means of productiuon" that all these enterprises represent are nowadays privately rather than state owned and managed. But the Chinese government definitely chooses to on the whole to ignore international violations of patents and copyrights and other protections afforded intellectual property. Counterfeiting of all sorts is rife and will remain so as long as it evokes no sanction or penalty, and China's many trading partners overall benefit so much from the relationship that none have yet to really stand up and say "Enough!"
Colligo ergo sum
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Posted 03/29/2015 2:45 pm
