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1787 US Fugio Cent

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I would like to know if anyone has an idea if this coin is authentic and if so the grade.
The coin weighs 10.80 grams but my searches haven't found one at that weight.
Thanks.

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I'll take a better look at this when I get home. I'm on my phone right now and trying to authenticate a coin like this on a phone is impossible.
The weight is within range. How does the edge look? Is it square or rounded? Is there a line on the edge that looks like it might have been two pieces stuck together? Later on my laptop I'll see if I can find a coin with the same die crack. Update later.
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I see what I think might be a Newman 8-X with the massive die crack on the obverse in Very Fine+ condition. There were nearly 200 of these in the Bank of New York Hoard according to the Whitman Encyclopedia of Colonial and Early American Coins. They call it URS-11 (fewer than 1000 and more than 500 known) with a book value somewhere near one thousand dollars. Nice coin!
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Hi Celticsoul:

I cannot see a line on the edge where it would have been put together and the edges are rounded.

Thanks.

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Quite the introduction promoter :-)

What pistareen said but I'm a tad higher on grade and FMV.
Beautiful example.
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Here is a link showing the twin to your coin confirming Pistareen's attribution of Newman 8-X.
http://www.stacksarchive.com/viewlo...119&auclink=
It also shows what the coin sold for in 2006.
The reason I asked about the edge is that the authentic coins have rounded edges and most fakes are squared.
This looks like a very righteous Fugio Cent.
Like Vermontensium says you've made quite an introduction!

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what a lovely and historical coin(one of my favourites), I agree that the grade is a bit higher. whats going on with that spot on the dial near the F? it looks like the beginning of corrosion...
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So, I've got to ask. Where did you come up with a coin like this? By the way according to the Early American Copper Grading Guide this coin is a solid VF-30.
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also, what's going on with the denticles near the M in Mind? a slight double strike perhaps?
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I agree with others ....

Very nice coin

I know I would love to have a nice coin like that in my collection.
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Thanks to everyone for your help.
To Celticsoul, I found it in a junk jewellery box at auction.
To thedollarman: There is a small spot on the dial but I don't have a strong magnifier to see if its corrosion or not.


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what an incredible find, do you mind telling us what it cost? just ignore me if you don't want to disclose that kind of info.
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You found a thousand dollar coin in a junk jewelry box?! I collect Early American Copper coins as a specialty and would kill to have a coin like this in my collection I just can't afford one. Great find!
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These finds are still out there ;-)
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anyone know the pop on these or estimated survivors in any grade?
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I got it a couple of years ago with a handful of foreign coins and some broaches. About $15 as far as I remember.
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