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My 2014 Guilt Maple Leaf Fractional 70 Er Reverse Proof Set

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 Posted 04/15/2015  2:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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What do u guys think about this set? Again, like my 2013 superman post they were products of my transition from bullion to coins and I liked the design for some reason. I bought them individually to have an all ER / FR blue label set. (I guess you can say it was my first time completing a set individually, lol)... I have around $800 in them.

So, my questions are:
-Is the set a safe bet for future financial gains or at least no loss?
-Do the blue ER / FR labels add value?
-What's better ER or FR or does it matter as premium adding?
- and What's your general thoughts? Good eye appeal? Is this a popular set? THANKS!


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A very beautiful looking limited mintage (under 10,000) set RP Maple Leafs are beautiful coins, hope you had fun assembling the set and if you like them, that is all that counts in collecting. The more you get hung up in "investment" "future value" et al, the less fun this hobby can be.

Now the harsh realities. Many people consider gold gilt coins PMD and takes away from the value. These however don't really fall into that category since they came from the RCM that way and that was part of the sales appeal. If you are going to buy modern bullion for value, PF/MS70 is the only real value, however ER/FS really means nothing except to the non-initiated.

Back in the old days, when they used dies to death, first strike used to mean the first coins struck with new dies and were highly sought after as better struck coins. The TPGs adopted this nomenclature for any coins submitted in a certain time period following the release of the coin by the mint. Soon they were sued for false representation. NGC caved and agreed to change their slabs to "Early Release" , PCGS stuck by their guns and eventually compromised by agreeing to be more clear as to what "First Strike" means, but they were allowed to keep the First Strike nomenclature. FS/ER means coins that were submitted within the first 30 days post release, or are in sealed, dated boxes from the mint indicated they were struck within the first 30 days. Since the coins like the ASE are minted to the tune of 3 mil per month, First Strike can mean anything from the very first coin off the die, to the 3 millionth coin off the die. Since these have a very limited mintage, it is a good possibility that the whole mintage was done at once, which would further render the ER/FS meaningless.

The set originally sold for $199.00 USD ungraded. And this PF70 set sold at Great Collections in Jan. for $603.00, who knows where it will go if silver rebounds. Beautiful set, keep it because you really like it, don't get caught up in investment value



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 Posted 04/15/2015  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This set is incredible...looks fantastic in hand...best fractional set to date in my opinion.
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I agree Electrum, I purchased this set. I absolutely love it.
As far as TPG First Strikes and all that jazz I don't get into it.
PF-70 from a low mintage mint product, not really
interested in paying a premium but there are those out there that
collect nothing but 70's.
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 Posted 04/16/2015  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with SilverDon

Without reducing from the beauty of the set in hand, congrats for High Grade ER, Cascade, if you into it.

I didn't want to pay CAD 250 for the set (short time after getting the 2013 one...) but got graded 1oz coin - PF69 for USD 100. Waiting for the "good day" to brake the slab and free the coin (into the capsule).

Yours, Cascade, I believe will hold the value, but as investment - risky as all the NCLT. From what I saw - no NCLT holds high resell value for the long term. In the most of cases successful the tactics : buy and resell when it is "hot".

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Congrats on completing your mini "set!" The coins make for an attractive fractional set of SMLs. I hope you continue to enjoy them!

Is the set a "safe bet" for future appreciation or value stability? My thinking tends toward a softening of prices vs. an escalation, but that's just my opinion. I agree with the previous comments regarding the labels - in this case, I don't see them adding any value to the set.

The true value of the coins is you enjoying having them as part of your collection!


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Thanks guys, I agree they are stunningly beautiful and they will stay with me for a while. Half the fun in coins for me is the history or beauty & the other half is the adrenaline rush of a good investment. Good thing I learned early on that nclt coins at 70 is best for that. I didn't know these could be considered the most beautiful fractionals though but I've always had a good eye
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I didn't know these could be considered the most beautiful fractionals though but I've always had a good eye


Check out please the 2013 Fractional (with young Queen), and the 2015 Fractional with incisive design and amazing enameled 1oz piece.
You will want them to in PF 70.....
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