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Opinions On This Trio Of 1885 Toned Morgans?

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What would you like to know specifically? If your concerned about the toning dont be. It is all beautifully natural album toning. NotHong to write home about but beautiful nonetheless...

Actually since they are all 85p it may be roll toning and these all may have been in the same bank roll together fir a while? I like em a little more now
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To me they all look in the MS64 range.
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Nice Ms60-62 quality coins with original toning. Don't mess with them.
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I wasn't questioning the toning. I guess I should have been more specific - I'd like some opinions on grade. I've got a decent idea, but Morgans are not at all my forte.

They were sold as being from an "original bank roll of 85-Ps" - the toning and the fact that the second two seem to be from the same die pair, in very similar states, gives this a little more credence than I would normally give such a claim from a seller.
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MS63 - Great toning
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the toning and the fact that the second two seem to be from the same die pair, in very similar states, gives this a little more credence than I would normally give such a claim from a seller.


Agreed. Further, if I'm reading the cracks right they're LDS VAM-1G's.

Images are a bit small for certainty but if they scale up with a similar look I see two 63's sandwiching a 62 with a shot.

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I'd venture ms63 range for all 3
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Well, roll was my first, er second, thought without even looking at die markers. It was late. But still, with what's presented I would buy em up for sure but anyone who knows me knows I'm bias towards all color bearing morgans

Agree with all being 63 however first one can possibly go 64 PL ?
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MS-63 on all three
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First coin looks MS-64 PL, the others MS-63. Original toning, as noted. A whole roll of these would be nice to have if you could get it for maybe $800-900. Did you buy them? If so, can I ask at what price?
Nice photos too!
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Only the top one presents the possibility of PL surfaces - the other two plainly have nice luster which precludes PL. The way I see light playing in the left field of the obverse keeps me from considering PL for it, but I'd be happily surprised and not shocked if I were wrong about it. Same goes for it as a 64 - the degree of chatter in the (primary eye appeal point) left obverse field along with the similar chatter on the cheek leans me away from it. I'm prepared to be wrong on both counts, especially knowing this to be an issue which isn't impossible in PL/DMPL.
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If you send them in for grading please let us know the results. Thx!
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1) MS-63, maybe MS-64.
2) MS-63.
3) MS-63.
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if I'm reading the cracks right they're LDS VAM-1G's.


Thanks! I had been wondering about VAMs, but there are so many listed on VAMworld for this issue, it was something of an overwhelming task. I'll take a look at that later and see if I agree with the coins in hand.
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Jaobler, yes, I purchased them - they were cherry-picked them from a tray that allegedly all came from the same roll. The rest of the lot was mediocre - all in the low MS range, similar to these. The top coin pictured here was the only one with a shot at a PL designation, and these were the only three with significant color. Most of the roll showed slight peripheral amber toning (similar to the reverse of the 3rd coin above).

This group of coins was being sold for $60/pc. That's a good bit more than I would have paid for the other coins of the lot, but with the current market for rainbow toners, I thought that was an excellent price for these three pieces in particular - low grade rainbow examples of this date seem to be going for ca. 2.5x that number on Heritage, from my brief research while considering the purchase.

Though, as only a casual observer of the Morgan dollar market, I would absolutely welcome opinions on price/value!
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