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1832 Bust Half

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 Posted 04/29/2015  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe AcesKings has the Overton variety correct.



Coinzip.proboards.com has this coin described as:


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The 1832 O-116, Rarity 3

The obverse was struck using Obverse Die 11. This was the last of two uses of the die. It was first used to strike the very scarce O-117.

The reverse was struck using Reverse Die L. This was the first of two uses of the die. It would be next used to strike the O-120.

(1) On the obverse, to quote the Overton book: "The 1 was first struck with a long serif and then re-punched with the short blunt type 1, as the serif clearly indicates. Also traces of this recutting show at the base and the right side."

(2) "The arrowheads are crude and joined to themselves and the shafts above."

(3) A in STATES is much higher at the base than the first T.



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The weakness (seen in the lack of hair highlights on the obverse and the lack of detail in the eagle's shield on the reverse) is, IMO, due to the previous usage of the obverse die and a late striking (toward the end of the die marriage) with the reverse die.

However, the coin does show some porosity, and IMO, has seen some usage in our US commerce. (I can't determine luster from your pictures).

That being said, this is a really nice coin and, IMO, would grade around an AU-50. And, as we all know, any Capped Bust half dollar is a GREAT one!
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With there nice new images, and Overton and Heritage in front of me, I'm happy with O-116 for it. This one is R.3, rather scare and markedly so in higher grade. It pretty much doubles in value from XF to AU, and doubles again into Mint State.

It's not known for a great reverse strike, especially on the shield. I looked at all of the Mint State examples at Heritage - of 1,997 1832's at Heritage, only 28 are O-116 and only 5 of those Mint State - and none of the Mint State examples had a full shield, not even the two MS64's.

This one's pretty well-struck, as they go. I'm a little bothered by the surfaces, though. Collectorlady, take it out into bright sunlight and angle it back and forth. Be looking for the telltale hairlines of a brushing. Sunlight will usually expose that to the naked eye, or a low-power loupe. Don't worry if you see those hairlines over a small quadrant of one face; if there they'll likely cover the whole face and there will be no doubt in your mind. I don't see any telltale crud stuck in the tighter places, symptomatic of a cleaning, but the reverse is a bit bothersome.

If they are not there, and the surfaces are adjudicated "original" by a TPG, I believe this one makes a strong argument for AU55. In a PCGS slab, that's a $400 coin. If judged "cleaned," probably $250
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I'd grade it AU-53ish.
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That's one "purdy" coin.... I checked the rules and it didn't say (that I could find) that I couldn't ask this question:

You going to sell it?

I ask as I'm crazy for this series!


Yes, but although I was born on Sunday, it wasn't last Sunday and what you're attempting to do is blatantly clear to me.

Don't do it again.
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With better pictures I have a feeling for
AU50.
There are a reasonable number of other bust halves out there for sale. Don't be in a rush, take your time and due diligence, before making a decision to buy the one that is right for you.
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Quote:That's one "purdy" coin.... I checked the rules and it didn't say (that I could find) that I couldn't ask this question:

You going to sell it?

I am sorry,but I can't tell you whether I want to sell the coin or not because I really think it is against forum rules to ask or try to sell. I do appreciate your input though.
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For all of those who have commented, THANKS! I have learned a lot about this coin and I appreciate your replies.
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