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What Make You "Ticked" At A Coin Show?

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 Posted 12/19/2007  4:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SA4H to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I will go to the Pasadena Coin Show in SoCal this weekend.

I am just wondering.... What are the things that ticked you off the most at Coin Show? Is it the crowds, the location, parking, the dealers, or the lack of good quality coins?

For me, I only went to a few Coin Shows since last year, so not much experiences. So far, nothing really "ticked" me off yet, except some dealers that we can considered "unethical".... but "ethical" in itself is a relative term already.....

PS: This question is in regard of the coin show but not a particular event, so I didn't want to put in the Coin Shows & Events section; and since we have the most traffic in this section, I want to put it here instead of in the World Coins section.... sorry fellow international collectors.

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 Posted 12/19/2007  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All depends on where your at, size of show, how often you go, how far you go to get there, parking availability, price to park, price to get in to show, who you go with, how much you want to spend, etc., etc. For me coin shows are always great. We have so many around me it is almost like going to Walmart or Kmart every weekend. Most here have great parking, no cost to park, no cost to get in, not restrictive times, friendly dealers, friendly customers, decent prices and just so much more. If you go often enough dealers will get to know you and give you even better prices. Some will actually make a list of what your looking for and look for you. Many shows have free items for kids. Most I go to have a table with numerous coin magazines free. Most have clean washrooms, lousy and expensive food and even worse coffee.
If the show is for more than one day I always suggest you go either the very first day or at the last minute, the last day.
Pending on the shows location I suggest a few cautionary notes. Such as:
When leaving check to see if anyone is sort of purposely leaving the same time as you do. If so, stop and go back inside.
At times in the show attempt to see if there are any people not buying but constantly watching what others are doing. If so and they start to leave when you do, go back inside.
When driving away from any coin show, stop at any fast food place for a cup of coffee or something. Check to see if any cars behind you do the same. If so, go back to the coin show and watch to see if they do the same.
I suggest you do not take credit cards or a check book with you.
If you do take a check book or credit card and a dealer allows you to pay with one, watch very, very carefully for anyone near you watching a little to much.
Always best to go with someone if possible.
The only thing that sometimes bothers me is when some idiots that meet each other at the show stand in front of a dealer and start a long winded conversation and you can't see what is on the table. Being a little rude myself I usually tell that dealer loudly I might have bought something but your table is blocked.
One coin show around me is a sort of big one and usually about 2 times a year. $11 to park, $5 to get in is just out of line for me.
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 Posted 12/19/2007  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just Carl has some good suggestions.

For me...I get frustrated at any "show" (coin, gun, collectibles, other) when a dealer appears uninterested in helping me find what I'm looking for...sort of like they can't be bothered, or they think I don't have any money.

That doesn't happen often, but happens enough that I can't help wondering what those particular dealers are looking for in a customer.
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 Posted 12/19/2007  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm irritated when the dealer is on the phone and will not make eye contact or otherwise indicate that he is aware I'm standing in front of his display. At a minimum I would expect him to say "I'll be able to help you as soon as I wrap up this call". Doesn't always happen!
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 Posted 12/19/2007  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dealing with insenstive dealers. Happens all the time unfortunately.
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 Posted 12/19/2007  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSOTL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I run outta money.
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 Posted 12/19/2007  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
When I run outta money.


Ditto
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 Posted 12/20/2007  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I keep on reading the title of this tread as tickeled not ticked, lol. For me it would be when you get a group of people just talking to the dealer in front of their table. So when I get to the table I can't see nothing since it's blocked. I just ignore it and it's their loss.
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12/20/2007 11:29 am
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 Posted 12/20/2007  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hahahahaha..... That's pretty funny, Amazon...... ticked = tickeled.... I did that quite often too.
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 Posted 12/20/2007  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ScarsdaleCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
many times we find that when we start saying hello and talking to a walk up customer who we do not know...that it sort of scares them off....

Regarding people watching ... sometimes its undercover security watching... we always have several on our floor
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 Posted 12/20/2007  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shappa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's been a few years since I've been to a show but here's what p.o.ed me.

Dealers bad mouthing other dealers in front of potential customers. I made a mental note not to deal with the one spouting off OR the ones taking the hit.

Dealers dealing with other dealers at the show while ignoring show goers. That should be done before or after the show.imo

Being ignored by dealers. At least make eye contact to determine if I need assitance.

I politely asked for an evaluation on a single coin from a dealer that was not busy at the time (so I wouldn't interrupt a potential sale)and handed him the coin. He says "I'll give ya xxx" (I don't remember what the price was) and flips it back to me on to the table.
I don't remember the coin or the offer but I do remember his face and the treatment of my coin.
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 Posted 12/20/2007  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't remember getting ticked off at a coin show. It is my relaxing and decompression time. My wife says I come back in a much better mood and encourages me to go. Even running out of money means my pockets are full!
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 Posted 12/22/2007  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, I find coin shows make me feel like a kid in a candy store , so it takes a lot to tick me off. About the only thing that comes to mind was a couple of years ago at one of the Long Beach shows. I had decided to part ways with an 1893-s Morgan in PCGS F-15 to help defray the cost of another piece I had found (I was hoping to do a cash transaction for it so I could haggle a little on the price). The going rate at the time was somewhere around $1800, so I expected offers of around $1500. The best I heard was $900, and I was told from a couple of tables that there was no real market for them. Yeah, right, whatever.
It all worked out when I just went back to the dealer who had the coin I wanted. When I showed him the coin, he immediately offered me the full $1800 towards my new purchase........ made this pup such a happy camper I ended up making a second purchase from him as well.
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12/22/2007 7:52 pm
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 Posted 12/22/2007  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevrolet454ss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I dont know. I never been to an coin show before and what is like and what are the prices like. I would love to see someday.

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A lot of things that are annoying at a coin show can also be useful. Crowded tables are annoying but a good sign that the dealer stocks decent material. Even if your too late you can remember to hit his table early the next month.

Seeing a couple of dealers tossing coins back and fourth to each is also annoying. They probably do this all the time when no one is watching, but when they don't even care if collectors see them doing it, then I don't have to waste time looking at anything they have.

Hearing the same dealer over and over again telling prospects, "I don't see any scratches, that's die polish" is a really bad sign.

Hearing a couple of dealers doing their script about how easy it is to grade Morgans and how they showed so and so to do it last week in 15 minutes is useful information even if enduring shills is annoying. Their Morgan sales are slow, maybe they'll bargain? I really did hear this once at a coin show but I don't collect them.

Trying to pay for something and the dealer is actually ignoring a sale, (really this happened) because he jabbering about how much he's making in the stock market is more than annoying but useful. I went back to his books and pulled a Peru Crown that had a huge piece out of the die. It was at least half inch wide and extended from the rim down into Miss Liberty. He never put his price code on it and apparently couldn't remember why or see why. And apparently didn't want to leave his discussion about his stocks. So he just said "four bucks" which at the time was pretty much the price for the silver that was in it.
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 Posted 12/23/2007  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IHPO8S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The things I hate are to crowded, dealers who think your just looking and dont have money. dealers that dont want to get coins out of there cases for you for whatever reason. They act like there doing you a favor to let you look at them. There are so many dealers that if I get a bad feeling about one I just keep walking. I like the smaller shows versus the bigger shows. Baltimore can be a hassle for parking and traffic.
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