Coop,
Actually if you look at the two obverse shots again you will see that they both share the same identical die scrapes (scrapes on the die) -- and a lot of them at that. For example those running from below the chin to the rim. But they also show
PMD to the actual coins resulting in a pretty dramatic difference in the incuse scrapes especially close to the rim. Notice the L of LIBERTY is still intact on Coin#2 and nearly scraped off on Coin#3. They varied like this from coin to coin in a whole roll that Fred Weinberg sent but the die scrapes remain the same on all coins in the roll on both obverse and reverse. So your have die damage and
PMD on the obverse melded together on all the coins.
On the direction of die scrapes, they all run the same direction relative to the positioning of the dies. The obverse was the anvil die for the States quarters while the
Lincoln Cent obverse was the hammer die. So the scrapes on your Lincoln and the scrapes on the
State Quarter are the same relative to the way they were set into the press.
On some Lincolns, (especially after 1999 -- maybe earlier -- Mike Diamond would know), some dies were set with the obverse as the anvil die too.
Also, the date of the coin matters. Die scrapes like you show in the lower image are typical of what I've held back from rolls of cents dated 1998. These scrapes could be the result of a different feed system.
It's all relative to the placement of the dies in the press and era in which the coin is found. I should have been more specific and noted my observations (given here) are limited to States quarters. I'm not trying to apply this to all denominations for all eras. All the States quarters I've seen so far are similar in the direction of the die scrapes. When I wrote the series on the Minnesota doubled dies, starting with the breaking news of the Extra Tree Die#1, I can't tell you how many folks sent coins with die scrapes (in the die from a Feed Mechanism) telling me they represented an attempt by the Mint to remove a doubled die. I've had them sent to me on many different states quarters.
I want to thank you for pointing out the weaknesses in my presentation. Sometimes when you are the one on the inside looking out, you assume everybody is on the same page when they are not.
Posted 05/02/2015 3:45 pm
