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1939 Jefferson Enhanced 1940 RDV?

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I found this roll searching. I'm pretty sure it's the enhanced steps but can I get some confirmation from the community (or not)? Thanks!



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 Posted 05/05/2015  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlueSolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, you found that defined of a coin while roll hunting!? It's difficult to find the '39 with steps

Looks like the 1940 reverse:

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 Posted 05/05/2015  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Your coin looks like the reverse of 1940 (that actually started being used in 1939) that is not the valuable one.
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Hi folks - I was delighted to find this one as the box I was going through was a bit of a bummer. I found2 or 3 other 1939 that I need to have a look at, but this one obviously stood out. To your point Bluesolo, it's hard to find high grade '39s in order to check for this variety. I'm glad out of the hundred or so that I have found, this one had the vertical grooves (or much of anything to see).

Coop - looking at Strike it Rich, this is the more valuable variety. The 1938-39 reverse is the less valuable variety. One thing puzzles me a bit though is that the book lists the 1939D as the least valuable of the set, which is contrary to value based on low mintage. They list the 1939P with enhanced steps (1940 reverse) for $35 in Extra Fine while the 1939D with enhanced steps at $5. Seems like that might be turned around. Perhaps Ken will stop by and offer some clarification.
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 Posted 05/05/2015  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlueSolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of these nice ones catch me off guard when roll searching. I'll find a really defined coin and expect it to be from the 80s and they turn around to be 30s-50s. This one is pretty fantastic for a coin found in circulation, glad you rescued it.
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 Posted 05/05/2015  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agrippa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Now THAT is a great find! It's so hard to find anything with enough detail to know what you're looking at with nickels that old. Way to go!
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I know what you're saying about mintage and value Rackster. I couldn't understand it either, I did some reseach and came up with other causes. This dsesn't necessarily apply to this date, but maybey. Some coins are known to be different early on and removed from circulation by collectors, Some are scooped at the mint. In the case of silver, the rare dates have closed the gap considerably as they were not melted. You probably know this anyway- new to me. Maybe other reasons too.
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Hi CoinMasters - I was thinking that if the book is correct (no printing error) then there has to be a reason like you suggest. I was thinking that the 1940 reverse die was introduced late in Philly, perhaps very late in production. Of the 120M+, only small % used the 1940 die (1-2 months). Or maybe Coops research is correct and the reverse is true (first couple of months used the 1939 reverse die and then they switched over quickly to the 1940 reverse dies).

Hopefully Ken has something to add since he co-authored the book and might have the subject data/information. Thanks for dropping a line or two!
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 Posted 05/06/2015  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The proof 1939 is rare with the 1940 (type 2) steps. The business strikes from all three mints have both reverses. The 39-D all types has very low mintage, while the 39-P all types has high.
Of the business strikes, the 39-p with the wavy steps is the most sought after.
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 Posted 05/06/2015  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So it looks like everybody is right. Good talking with you Rackster, another time my friend
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I don't know why but I can see more than what a coin shows and this is what I see on this coin it dose not make sence if so but how? I know I'm risking who I want to become but I really don't care what others think of me so look at this only positive postings but this is NOT A JOKE I am being as real as can be. WRONG PICTURE
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it is off a little didn't get the right size
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That's quite the imagination, but just that. And here I thought I look too much into the fine details of coins : P
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what can I say
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 Posted 05/08/2015  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So...is the book listing in error?
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 Posted 05/08/2015  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rackster,
Somehow the info in Strike It Rich on that variety got transposed. I did not work that section of the book so I have no idea of how it got listed that way but the error was found very quickly and was supposed to be corrected. Which edition of SIR are you looking in? It was supposed to be corrected by the second edition. If not, I'm going to be even more upset than I already am about Krause's failures to edit and correct info. Do to health issues I was unable to contribute much to the 3rd and 4th editions other than to submit images but next time around there will be many changes. The 4th edition was rushed out so fast that by the time I got two pages of corrections done, I learned it was already being printed. The excuse was that Barnes & Noble wanted it "right now" for inclusion in some kind of coin collecting package (I've never seen). Today, I accept what I can't change and recognize the book has brought in a lot of new blood to the hobby but I will make sure there are no more rushed out editions. My co-author, Dr. Brian Allen was not happy at all with the 3rd or 4th editions (least happy with the 4th).
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