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I picked up a pair of proof sets at a garage sale a few years ago for a couple dollars apiece, a 1971 and '72. However, in the '72 set, the dime has a very distinctive fingerprint on the obverse, and more subtle ones are present on the quarter and half. There is nothing on the reverse of any of the coins. Does the mint really let this happen?

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The sets can be opened and closed pretty easily. I suspect someone cracked it, enjoyed the coins and touched them, and then put them back. Then when the saw the prints they went to sell it. That is my guess. Sorry about that.
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That's fine. I got it for 4 or 5 bucks anyway, and the other one is OK.
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Now you can experiment on them

Of course I'd never recommend anything other than approved cleaningconservation methods.
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I sometimes wonder what the effect of my fingers will do on my coins years from now. I remember going to a cave tour once and the person doing the tour insisted nobody touch anything because oils from our hands would created an eroding effect on the cave that would hurt the rock for years to come. Makes me wonder if these coins were touched decades ago and those skin oils are just slowly eating away at the coins.
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When I get a Kennedy album, I might crack open both sets for the halves.
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Food for thought.
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Check out my cello sealed blue ike. I wonder if its a mint workets or the gsa guy who sorted/sealed it? I like to think ike touched it himself!... also, I kinda dig this one! Dont you? Let me explain, For a large fingerprint on a large coin I think the placement is perfect and the pattern is awesome. It makes ike look like a Maori warrior from new zealand...

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Again, they should have better quality control to prevent that. On the other hand, it is cool looking.
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Someone needed to wash their hands.
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I don't think that big fingerprint could have been caused by just finger oils. Depending on where that employee was, the brown stuff could be any number of things, some not so pleasant...
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I bet the fingerprint was not originally visible...waaaay too obvious. Some Mint employee who doesn't like gloves did a thumb plant and the oils eventually scarred the coin...

This one came from a sealed Mint package of two 2009 rolls...

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That makes sense. Would've been a lot harder to spot before it was released.
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The sets can be opened and closed pretty easily. I suspect someone cracked it, enjoyed the coins and touched them, and then put them back. Then when the saw the prints they went to sell it. That is my guess. Sorry about that.
Actually, not these sets. Up to the late 1990's they were sealed just enough that they would crack when opened. While the sets sold the last 15+ years re not sealed at all and can be easily opened, you would definite know if this one was.



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Does the mint really let this happen?

Yes, because it is really impossible to completely stop.

As for the blue Ike and the 2009 cent those coins don't get the care levels the proofs do, no gloves, an if they get touched oh well. Also the planchets for those are often handled and touched. It would be very easy for a non-visible figer print to be applied that wouldn't show up until much later.
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The delayed print works for an older PF set but that 2009 cent I posted came from rolls that I bought and opened in 2009 just weeks after they started sales (looking for DDR's).

That was (is) a grimy gross new at the time print from an employee that never washes his/her hands...ewwwwwww
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