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Pillar of the Community
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Can you tell me what this is and should I return?   |
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Pillar of the Community
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I cant say for sure but what ever it is it can only be a negative. return!return!return!
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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SilverDon, just curious, is the seal broken or is the ICCS holder intact?
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Valued Member
Canada
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Could this possibly be the unfortunate aftermath of a sneeze prior to holdering?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I guess the question is, did you send it raw without the spots and it came back this way or purchased it already holdered? Generally if a coin changes appearance within a relatively short it means it has been treated or somehow environmentally contaminated (dipped or otherwise).
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Pillar of the Community
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Planchet washing can leave these milk spots (if thats what they are) and as far as I know they dont come off very easily.
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Pillar of the Community
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Coin was bought this way, not submitted, as it could be 50% copper, is it a copper reaction, will try for a return?
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Pillar of the Community
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Still on a learning journey in regards to grading.......can anyone say then, would a blemished coin like this warrant an ICCS PL-66 grade aside from the fact it takes away from the overall appearance or is it most likely that the spots appeared later?
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Pillar of the Community
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..can anyone say then, would a blemished coin like this warrant an ICCS PL-66 grade aside from the fact it takes away from the overall appearance or is it most likely that the spots appeared later? I don't understand how that coin could ever go 66.. It doesn't make sense to me,..unless it was graded many years ago ..and this slowly happened ..and is now showing.. |
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I don't understand how that coin could ever go 66..
It doesn't make sense to me,..unless it was graded many years ago ..and this slowly happened ..and is now showing..
That's what I'm curious about as well, how this might have happened. According to Charlton, all graded PL 1967 25c still had the higher silver content - .80 silver/20 copper., exactly the same composition since 1937. So it's doubtful the green spots are caused by verdigris of the copper. I've never seen milk spots other than white. Which leaves toning or PCV contamination... SilverDon is the ICCS certification 5 or 6 digits and is the seal broken? |
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Must have been contamination in the holder. I doubt it looked this way when certified.
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Valued Member
Canada
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To me it look like splash marks of some kind of liquid, might of come from holder the only way to tell would be cut it open and see. Most times if you mail the coin and the holder back to ICCS, unless something bad has happened to the coin it usually comes back the same grade.
If you can return it I would, if not what ever it is can not be good for the coin
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Pillar of the Community
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It's a goner now ----green indicates counterfeit? Whatever the cause it is now unsellable and must be freed, cleaned and re-graded. Some things can be done with milk spots---check out the cleaning section.
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Pillar of the Community
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It is strange, the seal is not broken inside the flip. The reverse is nice. The obverse you can't see the spots with the naked eye, but with a loupe it is ugly. I am within 2 weeks of purchase and can send back. Never saw these green spots before and wanted clarification. Paid $10 but want value for money. It is a newer Certification. 5 alphanumeric Code. Will try to send back for a replacement.    |
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Pillar of the Community
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That could still be from more than 10 years back.
My older embossed ICCS's also have 2 letters and 3 following #'s. They count them up to 999 and then start a new letter pair..
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Pillar of the Community
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Perhaps I've gotten it backwards but I thought the 5 digit ICCS certification numbers were all prior in time to the more recent 6 digits?
I notice from Charlton that not only were Uncirculated Sets considerd PL grade, but also the 1967 Medallion Special Issue set. (The Gold Coin set was issued SP.) So I suppose it's also possible this coin for some reason reacted to the felt backing while intact in the original case, which would explain why only the obverse is damaged.
Since the seal is not broken, it would be interesting to know what the seller has to say about it, if he or she refuses to give you a refund.
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Posted 06/16/2015 12:10 am
