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My 1953 PL Set

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 Posted 07/12/2015  8:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 1947ML to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just showing off my newly finished 1953 PL set.

Early Coins (up to 1948) were called Proofs, struck with polished dies and mirror like surfaces. Also the relief is very smooth and flat top lettering. (unlike Mint State , which will have what looks like bag marks on top of the lettering) This is the main identifier when looking at toned Specimen or Proof - Like where mirror surfaces are not present.

Charlton Catelogues first mention Proof-Like in 1959. Before that there is no mention of Proof Like.

The name Proof applied to specimen coins up to 1948-49. The US also had Proof coins.
Speculation...
I think that the technology may have changed around 1949, and regular coins were starting to resemble Proof coins. Thus , Proof-like was born, and first cataloged in 1959.

In 1962 , Charlton added the Proof like table, that started from 1953. Now we know with certainty that there we no real Proof-Like sets in 53 and that it started in 54 with 3000 sets.

1 dollar ; PL67 Heavy Cameo
50 Cents ; PL66 LD SF ; Heavy Cameo
25 Cents ; PL66 SD ; Ultra Heavy Cameo
10 Cents ; PL66 ; Heavy Cameo
5 Cents ; PL65 ; SF; Cameo
1 Cent ; SF; RED

it's somewhat difficult to photo these coins.

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I have two (25 cents PL) and both have this die chip that looks like a tear drop. Has anybody else never noticed this?

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TEAR DROP ; 1953 PL 25 cents.




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Cannot answer your question, but... Wow! What a nice looking set
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Beautiful set! Congratulations!
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 Posted 07/12/2015  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An absolutely splendid set!

Just a question though, I'm curious......when you say there were no real PL sets until 1954, do you know why has ICCS graded them as such, rather than Proof? It' seems unfortunate that over time, the term PL has gradually encompassed everything from soup to nuts.

Oh and one more...is 1953 a significant year for you?
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 Posted 07/13/2015  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Quatchi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome set!
Interesting write up too, thanks for sharing!
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Oh boy the drool. Wow. Amazing set to have completed. Just superb.
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Thanks for complements.

RCM began making special sets in 1954. (some other earlier sets were also created in 52 and 53, but not like 54,, these earlier sets where a mix of PL and MS grades; or all MS grades..

Charlton started calling these proof like in 1959 as a grading term and grade. In 1962 they created that Proof-Like table we have always seen in the catalog.

The names changed; early proofs became know as Specimen, and in 54 ( I think ) proof-like became the new proof or specimen.

No Specimen coins (or old name proofs) were issued in 1954 to 1968, with the exception of 64,65, and 67. The only specialty strikes were the PL coins.

The Mint had never really mass produced Proof coins or Specimens., (perhaps 1937 counts but still small numbers)

I would image something changing around 1950, and more people asking the mint for early strikes (off polished dies) or looking for these special strikes. By 1954 the Mint is obliging and pumping out special sets.

You can find PL coins in 1953, 52, 51, 50, and even 49 dollars. ICCS use to grade 1949 PL dollars, and then for some reason stopped and decided to either call them Specimen or Mint State. I completely disagree with calling anything PL/SP a MS grade just because. I have a 1949 PL 63 grade coin that really PL. It's not Mint State,, it's really PL.

I can not tell the difference between a 1952 SP65 Dollar and 1952 PL65 Dollar. I think I see "perhaps" a more sharper strike in a SP coin, but generally I'm lost in telling the difference in SP vs PL. Same goes for 1967 SP vs PL. I have a bunch of these and I can not tell the difference unless I'm comparing side by side and even then it's so so small; and even then some coins look like SP in a PL holder and some PL look SP.

PL and SP coins will have a more frosted relief on the legends. (very clean, and very easy to spot) Very hard to do with photos.

New Specimen coins and new Proof coins are completely different again., I quick ebay search and you can see the difference in mirror relief and frosted relief.

I think 1953 PL is a little special to me because for years we were told there were 300 sets made or 500 sets made, nope 1500 sets, and PL started in 1953 which it didn't.. I too purchased a Mint State set in cardboard thinking it was PL only to be disappointed.

I now have my 1953 PL set!

The dollar is a SWL by the way, and I think that 25 cent piece in unique.









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Unbelievable, literally.
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 Posted 07/13/2015  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice, have a 1951 PL 66 - 5 cent piece, deciding if I want to go for the full set.
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Just showing off my newly finished 1953 PL set


you deserve to

gorgeous set. I especially like the UHC 25 cent
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They're all so very special....Thanks for sharing ...!!
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Congrats 1947ML on your set.
I'm putting together (at least trying to) a set of PL Silver Dollars including my 49PL. My 53 is not as nice as yours but am trying to upgrade my set to a PL66 where I can.
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So beautiful
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all beautiful, congrats! Especially love the SF cent. A fair bit of money put into this set, have you ever considered trying for the 53 NSFs as well?
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Very nice coin's Wow factor on these baby's
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Super and thanks!
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