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Last week I found a 1972 DD obv. I let my local dealer look at it and he said that it was a "poor mans doubled die". From reading online today, the poor mans DD is only the 2 being doubled. Mine looks just like "FoundinRolls" Avatar. Very strong doubling on the whole date. I cant get a pic yet, the new camera hasnt arrived.
What is the definition of a poor mans 72'?
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Bedrock of the Community
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If it is a "poor mans double die" then it is not a true doubled die(emphasis for correct terminology). It is generally caused by Machine Doubling or Die Deterioration Doubling, both have no real numismatic value. "Poor mans double die" is a term generally used when referring to the 1955 issue since the real DDO is a $1000+ coin but some fill the album space with the poor mans version. The problem comes when sellers try to pass off a "poor mans" as something of value when it is not. Your dealer is in the best position to tell you what it is since he has seen it in person. Without a picture, no one here can determine anything about your coin. |
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There are many 1972 DDO die varieties. Not sure what is meant by the "Poorman's DDO". A picture will help us determine if it is a true die variety or an example with some Machine Doubling. I think for all the Mintmark combinations that there are 12 or 13 different possibilities on circulation strike coins. We'll wait for a picture. Thanks, Bill |
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Rumor has it, There is a new camera waiting at home..(FINALLY).. I will get some pic's up this weekend. Thanks for all the responses
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Your dealer doesn't know what he's talking about. He's probably seeing one of the lesser doubled dies and calling it something it's not. That's my guess, and it's nothing against the dealer - most dealers wouldn't know die varieties if they jumped up and bit them. Dealers are really the wrong place to go for die variety information.
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Okay, so the Camera got here and cant focus on a coin, so that is going back..(it was a freebie) I tried to get the best scan I could. Hopefully it shows well. Image:  1972ddo.jpg85.09 KB |
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Wouldnt there be more doubling on the coin? How could the date just get the doubling and not the letters too? I don't doubt your experience, I just thought that most of the coin would be doubled too.
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Machine Doubling is often inconsistent. Many times it depends upon the very last bit of the coin that contacts the die as the coin is ejected after the strike. It can effect anything. It can effect two letters in the word LIBERTY, I like to say that it is consistently inconsistent. The penny shown is machine doubled and worth 1 cent. I hope you didnt buy it from the dealer as anything special. Oh and by the way...It doesn't look anything like my avatar which is indeed a doubled die.
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01/07/2008 3:38 pm
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Sure it Looks like your avatar, they are both doubled, Yours is just a Real DD and mine is a MD (and a **** scan). I didnt buy it from a dealer, I found it in my change.
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This year also has master die doubling that shows on coins from all three mints. These coins made a large number of coins and is also common, worth what the copper melt value is for them.
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Posted 01/04/2008 4:16 pm
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