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What Do The Annotations Mean On This Card Holder? Grade?

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Hi, I couldn't find anything telling me what the letters written on this holder meant, I was hoping someone here could assist me.

Thanks in advance!

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More than likely this is the code telling the previous owner of this coin how much they paid for it, and possibly other information, such as who they purchased it from and/or when they purchased it.

It is a common practice to come up with a one, two, or even three word phrase having 10 different letters and assign each of those letters a value. Then, the owner can look at this information and tell exactly what they paid for the coin without you knowing that information and without them having to refer to some inventory listing.
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Well said.
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I think they are 'record keeping' notes of the owner and not related to the coin or it's attributes. Just my opinion of course.
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I agree with Coinfrog & cipster on this one.

And this raises some interesting questions as to whether one should record provenance, amount paid, and date of acquisition on each coin holder. I do. And now I wonder if I should come up with my own form of Caesar's cipher.
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Thanks for the great explanation guys!
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Is it also okay if I ask what kind of grade you would give this coin?
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I have moved this to the grading section

At the top of the obverse, is that a scratch on the coin or the 2x2?
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And now I wonder if I should come up with my own form of Caesar's cipher.


It's a good idea, I can't think of a dealer that doesn't use own of their own. You can use Google to help you. Just do a search on 10 letter words with no repeated or duplicated letters, or use a multiple word that doesn't use repeating letters. Find one you like and can remember quickly. A dealer friend of mine (long time ago) used Bankruptcy, LOL!

I added x, y and z in between numbers like dates, price paid, and sometimes just nonsense to throw off other guys trying to figure out what my price code was. Some dealers have multiple codes, ones that other dealers know for discounting as a wholesaler, and one they only know for what they really paid.
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Grade wise, a 62 or a 63?
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additional pics added
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Grade wise AU+
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Maybe a serial code for the dealer...
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I do this for all my coins. A code for price paid and date. I'm not a dealer, I just like to keep a secret record.
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Looks pretty nice to me. I would say 63 anyway.
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I used BLACK and WHITE for costs, the numbers being from 1 to 0.

Example: A raw coin in a 2x2 which I paid $256.36 for = LKW.AW written on holder by me, that way if I have it valued at $290 I know what it's worth vs. what I paid for it, and if I list the same coin for sale on the Bay, it would be somewhat obfuscated enough so that bidders wouldn't have that bit of information.

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