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With the recent discussion on another thread which diverged from the original topic, I thought I would start a new thread specifically dealing with that discussion. Without further ado, is this coin real or fake? 
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I will copy what you posted in the original thread... Quote:Absence of monetization makes them illegal to own/spend, but doesn't make them fake. The point is that the 5 1913 V nickels are not fakes or counterfeits any more than the 1804 dollars or 1933 St. Gaudens are. Illegally produced, perhaps, but not fake. ... because I agree.  That is all I have to say. I look forward to the discussion. 
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The 5 known 1913 V nickels, the legit ones, ARE REAL. That's all I have to say.
Edited by ChildOfTheWheat 08/12/2015 10:49 am
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Quote:Quote:So by your reasoning, if a mint employee today, got hold of mint-produced planchet of, say, a 1913 Liberty nickel and used mint equipment to produce it, than it would not be a counterfeit/fake coin? It would then be a restrike. Exactly. Case in point - the Type II and Type III 1804 dollars. The first 1804 dollars were struck - for numismatic purposes, not circulation - in 1834/35. But sometime around 1850, a Mint employee (or employees) clandestinely struck some more of them, again for numismatic purposes. NONE of the 1804 dollars are considered fakes, but the Type II and Type III coins are considered restrikes.Likewise, the 1913 Liberty nickels were struck - for whatever reason, but not for circulation - in 1913. Should a Mint employee (or employees) clandestinely strike some more of them, again for numismatic purposes, they would be considered restrikes as well. As for their legality, well, that would be another story.
Edited by Aahz 08/12/2015 11:29 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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McDermott specimen - real
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Quote: McDermott specimen - real Ooooh, you're good! 
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This isn't meant to insult anyone, but I think to call this coin fake would be a display of numismatic ignorance.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Nice one, Earle! 
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Although Earle has correctly identified this coin, I thought you might like to see its full display as I photographed it in the ANA Money Museum back in June:  The one thing that is missing from this display is any indication that this coin is a counterfeit, replica, or fantasy piece. If it had been considered a counterfeit, I rather doubt it would have such a prominent spot in the ANA Museum. Just sayin'...
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As well as the one in the Smithsonian Numismatics exhibit in DC.
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Their 1913 Liberty nickel wasn't on display when we were there in April, but one of their 1933 St. Gaudens was!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Why all the fuss. I should really start selling off my entire roll of 1913 Liberty Head Nickels. 
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Really? Can I have one? I already have a great place to put it! See?   
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If a whole roll of them surfaced that would torpedo their value. I mean, they still wouldn't be accessible to 99.9% of collectors, but they wouldn't be selling for 3-5 million like we've seen.
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Gee, why didn't they plug all the holes, then collectors could put the coins in the slots when acquired? That way, you'd have a complete set .... not! Whitman could even ad a hole for the 1882 pattern.
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I love those Whitman folder plugs. 
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