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bravo30 New Member United States 32 Posts	Posted 08/17/2015 10:45 pm It was graded an E5 (cleaned).. so my question is besides the cleaning what actual condition is my coin in ? excellent? fair? or does non of that matter since its been cleaned? Id like to thank you guys for your help and advice. this coin has had a remarkable journey I'm sure and its now only begun. Still cant believe that coin that I found sitting on a cluttered desk in a small yellow envelope turned out to be what it was. It probably sat there for years then sat in my basement for a few more years. this is why we exist. this is why we collect Edited by bravo30 08/17/2015 10:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff

CoinHuntingDrew Pillar of the Community United States 4932 Posts	Posted 08/17/2015 10:46 pm The actual condition is EF45... I don't know what you are asking here? Report this Post to the Staff
bravo30 New Member United States 32 Posts	Posted 08/17/2015 10:51 pm i completely missed that ............. extra fine! that sounds better Report this Post to the Staff
bravo30 New Member United States 32 Posts	Posted 08/17/2015 11:05 pm in the initial email it stated E5 details ........on the slab its E45 Details. thats what I was confused but I get it now Report this Post to the Staff
BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 08/17/2015 11:36 pm Quote: ...so my question is besides the cleaning what actual condition is my coin in ? excellent? fair? or does non of that matter since its been cleaned? Coins used to be net graded (and sometimes still are ) by certain TPG to their market value grade-wise "net" of the problem(s) at hand. For example: Suppose a coin has AU50 level of detail but has a harsh cleaning it might have been assigned a VF35 net grade. Your coin (and better images would help) appears lightly cleaned and as such the net grade would be VF35 to me. Meaning it is worth the value of the same coin certified VF35 without any problems. I hope this helps a little and is not confusing. Bottom line is you have a very nice and quite valuable gold piece that most collectors would love to own. I could go on but it's suffice to say if this piece were in a PCGS or NGC holder as an XF45 and problem-free it would be worth a lot more to many buyers. Perhaps double what it would likely bring now. At least you know it's genuine and worth every bit of $4,000 as-is. Keep it in a safe place. ANA #R3154474 Report this Post to the Staff
bravo30 New Member United States 32 Posts	Posted 08/18/2015 12:12 am Maybe at some point I'll crack it open a send it out to PCGS or NGC but for now it's just gonna sit I guess.... Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10038 Posts	Posted 08/18/2015 09:46 am Ii am not a fan of the value people will put on a slab. I personally do not know if a cleaned coin can be graded as "problem-free" so make sure you check into this before wasting money to "upgrade" a piece of plastic. This is a fantastic coin, so enjoy the coin for what it is How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Edited by Earle42 08/18/2015 09:47 am Report this Post to the Staff
Jaobler Pillar of the Community United States 6384 Posts	Posted 08/18/2015 3:50 pm I know that on occasion a coin with "light" cleaning issues can be certified as problem-free. Sometimes coins with obvious hairline scratches will still not be flagged by the grading service. Maybe it's an offensive idea to some, but if your coin is not harshly cleaned it might be worth it financially to risk money on a re-submission to PCGS. You know it's authentic based on the ANACS certification and ANACS has sometimes been viewed as fussier about cleaning than PCGS. If PCGS were to give your coin a pass (maybe net-grade it as problem-free XF-40) you would likely double the potential resale value. Even if they give it the same XF-45 Details, Cleaned grade it might realize a higher selling price in PCGS plastic. "Cleaning" encompasses a broad range of practices, from a momentary dip in dilute E-Z-Est coin cleaner to vigorous scrubbing with baking soda, toothpaste, or even scouring pads. It sometimes boils down to a judgment call on the part of the grader and if they decide the coin is not significantly impaired they will give it a righteous grade. Only the buyer can decide whether a particular coin meets their personal standard of originality. Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10038 Posts	Posted 08/18/2015 4:50 pm @Jaobler - thanks for this info How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
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