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Guess The Grade: 1884-CC Morgan Dollar

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MS64 I think, those look more like scuff lines than actual digs or hits.
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Knowing how a picture shows any hits/rubs much more
negative than a coin looks in hand.

I am going MS64 on this one.

I think it looks very good, and even better in hand.

Nice pick up for your first Morgan
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Nice MS-63, super attractive coin. Looks like a VAM 8.


Neat. I had it originally pegged as VAM-3A, and your post has led me to think that V3 and V8 share an obverse. I'm gonna throw that up on VAMworld if nobody else has yet.

I think this one has a good shot at 64.
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I think some people call them luster breaks on the obverse side and doesn't detear from the grade but doesn't help the look. I'm going with 64
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Ok, here is the reveal:

Guess-The-Grade:-1884-CC-Morgan-Dollar
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I'm thinking the grader had a long day, I peg this at 64!

Also, I think you are right about VAM-3A SsuperDdave!

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Yeah, your detail images confirm 3A.
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Hey, what's FMV for an unattributed, possibly undergraded VAM3A?
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I don't see this VAM as carrying a premium, really. Keep in mind, there are too few true VAM specialists to support a market for all but the most desirable VAMs.
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So is $245 reasonable for this coin?
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So is $245 reasonable for this coin?


No, not according to auction records. $245 buys an MS64 in a GSA holder. MS63 is $200 tops.
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$245. is approx. fair market value for the 84-CC in MS63.
Very nice example for the grade.

That particular holder is a Gen. 3.5 PCGS transitional
green holder produced in 1989. These holders often carry
a small premium and are in higher demand than current holders.
These coins sometimes upgrade up a notch by today's standards.

Looks like a solid coin for the grade, I would hang on to it.
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$245. is approx. fair market value for the 84-CC in MS63.


A huge quantity of real-world sales (thousands of 1884-CC's in MS63 slabs) disagree with this. A perusal of PCGS Auction Results - over 3,000 1884-CC's in MS63 slabs - indicates ebay is the only place where an MS63 1884-CC which isn't toned or Prooflike is worth over $200. That's not the case at Heritage, Stacks, Great Collections or Teletrade before them.
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Late to this party, but just wanted to say what s sharp-looking coin this is!
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