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Pillar of the Community
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I wish you luck, but you'll probably be seeing those $25 Morgans go for $110....
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Canada
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Common coins and bullion do seem to get crazy prices at public auction with the only exception I can recall was when a prominent Halifax local collector passed away in the late '90s and all his stuff went to a local auction - there was so much, most everything went extraordinarily cheap, which was a shame given all the work he put into the hobby, but some people definitely came away with great deals.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1911 Posts |
Yeah most likely they will go for higher than I would want. The past two auctions I have been to I was just looking to buy for selling and the prices were higher than I wanted, but as far as buying to keep the junk silver was fairly cheap. One person got a bunch of junk dimes for $1 (what I didn't realize was that it was bid for the dime and take as many as you want at that winning price, therefore she got them all for $1 each) and I got 14 silver quarters for $35 at 2.5 each. There were also some Morgans that a lady got for $20 a piece (just common ones like these). So possibly good prices for keeping but we will see! It's really exciting though!
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Valued Member
United States
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With in person auctions, you just never know.
But make sure you know what the buyers premium is, if there is one.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Take a tablet or your phone to quickly check ebay closing prices for similar items. Take paper and pencil so you remember to write down the lots you are interested and your max bid for those lots, otherwise it's easy to get lost in the shuffle. Most of the time the auction houses know that the faster they go, the more they get. You would think people who would want to bid on a lot would be left behind and the lots wouldn't sell for as much, but the opposite happens most of the time. If the auctioneer can get things rammming many people get so excited they bid over what they intended, or bid on lots they didn't intend to bid on. Also DO NOT THINK for a moment that the auction house is responsible for ANY information. It doesn't matter what the coins are listed as or at, YOU are fully responsible for what you bid on and buy. If they say the next lot is a mint state perfect 1895 Morgan dollar, you should have seen it before it goes to the book and is discovered to be a railroad track 1885.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Make sure that you arrive at the auction with plenty of time to spare to closely inspect the items. It's never smart to bid blind especially at a public auction where the auctioneer probably knows next to nothing about coins. Know the bid increments and use that to your advantage. I've gotten some deals where I got some junk silver halves for a few dollars under spot since the under-bidder didn't want to go up to the next increment, which would have been over spot. Buyers premiums can be hefty and many bidders don't calculate them into their bids. I've seen premiums anywhere between 10 and 22.5%. Personally I haven't had that much luck at auctions since the common stuff goes for retail+++ since there is always someone that is willing to bid up to RedBook prices. However the average auction buyer in my experience seems to be reluctant to shell out more than a few hundred dollars on an individual coin so better stuff might go reasonable.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Also some according to some of the coin dealers I patronize some local auctioneers frequently come in to buy cheap problem coins to put into their auctions since some of the bidders seem bid up RedBook prices no matter what is wrong with the coin. Some of the ugliest, most messed up coins I've ever seen have been at these types of auctions since the dealers like to unload their junk to these auctioneers.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1911 Posts |
Thanks for the advice! I emailed the auctioneer and there are no buyers fees. Also I made a list of the coins I am interested in (just based off pics, not the list) and put the maximum amount I will go for each one. I will also have my phone with me and as long as signal strength is doable we should be all set! :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In addition to the commission you'll likely pay, you need to see if there will be sales tax. Presently, I'm told that there are 37 states that don't charge tax on coins.
Given the pics posted, I see largely generic coins that are plentiful in the market. It's long been my auction experience that these coins, largely silver, fetch more money than one would pay for comparable coins at a show. Granted, there is always the chance of getting a bargain, but I've attended hundreds of auctions and see the odds are not in a bidder's favor .... Unless, the bidder has selective knowledge about coin varieties, grading and other variables that enhance value. Good luck, and avoid getting carried away!
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Valued Member
United States
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Old US coins at local auctions have always commanded extraordinary prices around my area. I went as far as consigning a bunch of Morgans to a local auction house when silver was $17 an ounce and they went for about $32 each, for circulated common-dates, with no rare VAM's.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1911 Posts |
Yeah the couple of auctions around here were pretty good priced for the most part, just slightly over spot (like Joe had said people didn't want to bid over the next increment due to being higher than spot price, instead of just in line with it). We will see! Am excited but most likely won't come away with anything. Will have to see where that silver Elephant goes for though I need that for my world bullion collection. Will update again tomorrow after it happens!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1911 Posts |
Well auction is over and as people mentioned 90% of the coins went for a lot more than it was worth. One lady bought all the 90% junk silver for $2520 at $60/$5 bag (not that bad a deal but more than I wanted to spend), Morgans and comments went for $30ish, gold was $$500 for both of them. I did however get a couple of things and will add pics later tonight. $20 for a 1 oz silver 2015 Somalia elephant, $3 for a nice full liberty Indian cent (I'm pretty sure cheap upgrade for my 7070), $5 for two partially filled Wheat cent albums (one has a 1913s in G condition), and lastly $58 for 40 40% silver Kennedy halves. I am OK with this. ;)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Considering you can buy MS64 Morgans with common dates for $60 I have to wonder at auction prices I see. I have been to in-person auctions where partial collection sets of Buffalo and Mercury dimes went for very high prices. You could do better just buying them from LCS and do some haggling for lower prices. The coin shops pay maybe $25 bucks for common mint Morgans and are often willing to sell them for twice that money which may still be 25% less than Red Book price. If you do consistent business with your favorite LCS and you get to know them you can often get significant discounts. I do like to go to auctions and it is fun and exciting, but bidding wars can be expensive if your emotions get involved. I used to go over the items before hand and write down my maximum bids and stick to that number. If they go for more then let them go whatever they are. So easy to overpay by a few bucks but that mounts up and before you know it you are neck deep in the Old Muddy. You must assume there are people in the crowd who actually know the true value of just about everything. Not always the case, but a pretty good bet somebody there knows what's happening.
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Pillar of the Community
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There are many there that knew how much everything was, but 4 or 5 out of 20 that REALLY wanted them Morgans and comments silver dollars. The junk silver went for about spot so not bad and then I'm super happy I got 5.78ish oz of 40% halves for $58
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United States
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Was there a buyers' fee? Taxes?
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