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Nickels: 45s (Color), 60d (Edge), 43p (Layer)

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 Posted 08/27/2015  08:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vermilk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
First I have to say that this is one of the nicest bunch of people on a forum that I've ever seen. I have read hundreds of posts from many, including newbies like myself, and everyone is so polite and willing to help. Thanks for a pleasant community!

So, I have a few nickels that I thought I would throw out to you folks for some evaluation.

The 45S has a strange color on the back which looks like rust. I have no idea what this is and I'm guessing nothing special.

The 60D's date is attached to the rim with extra material.

The 43P looks like it's peeling.

Ideas?

Nickels:-45s-Color,-60d-Edge,-43p-Layer


Nickels:-45s-Color,-60d-Edge,-43p-Layer


Nickels:-45s-Color,-60d-Edge,-43p-Layer
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 Posted 08/27/2015  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right on the 45S it's toned on one side is all. Nice silver nickel though. The 60D could be a die chip. Really hard to tell from my phone.Check the D for doubling while yo are looking at them. The 43 would be called a lamination. Again my phone is making it difficult to see but I can't decide if it is a lamination or just dirty.
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 Posted 08/27/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scstrawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. Likely not rust, just toning. War Nickels tend to tone quite a bit more than plain nickels.
2. Looks like a die chip to me. Interesting minor error.
3. Lamination error. (You can see the streaks running across the coin. Usually comes from the metal not being mixed well before cutting the planchets, if I recall correctly.)
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 Posted 08/27/2015  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some nice coins right there!

Your 1960 is a known variety, called a "bar nickel". It was caused by a defect in the die and seems to catalog in the $2-5 range.

War Nickels frequently take on a grey/black tone due to the metal composition: 56% copper, 35% silver, and 9% manganese. Manganese is responsible for both the greyish color of the 42-45 nickels, as well as the horrid tone that modern Sacagawea and Presidential dollars take on. It can be alloyed with copper to give the same conductive signature as cupronickel, which was the main driving force behind its use in both the nickels and dollars (the vending machine lobby had a large hand in the composition change legislature). Additionally, War Nickels were made with the assumption that they would be pulled from circulation on the conclusion of the war, which is why they bear such large mintmarks. Poor mixing of the metals within the War Nickel planchets led to frequent "streaks" and lamination errors, both of which can be easily seen on your '43 nickel.
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08/27/2015 11:23 am
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 Posted 08/27/2015  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. Book toning.
2. 1960 D Bar zero nickel, one of my favorite errors to collect considering I'm working on a roll of them and now have about 10...
3. Lamination error, VERY common on War Nickels. Maybe 1/5 War Nickels have a lamination issue, probably due to the mixture of metals.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice nickels!

and hope you share some more with us!
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 Posted 08/28/2015  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vermilk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the info!

What is book toning?
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 Posted 08/28/2015  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lots of collectors purchase albums to display their coins and show/track their progress toward completing a full set. Cheap albums are not made from acid-free paper or cardboard, and can react with the coin, especially silver or bronze coins. Drew is probably right--the 45 looks like it was in a book for a number of years, then liberated and spent when the original owner found a better replacement or noticed the toning and wrote the coin off as ruined.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finn, thank you for explaining.
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 Posted 08/28/2015  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love finding pre-1976 nickels, especially War Nickels.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vermilk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, thanks Finn. Makes sense.
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