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United States
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My wife has a large collection of coins that she inherited. We've done a lot of research on the coins online and priced them out with a low to high range. We have been connected with a respected coin dealer in Los Angeles that were meeting next week. However, we know that our estimates are likely not going to be the price he offers. We'd like to sell the entire lot but we want to make sure we get a good deal. So I wanted to connect with the experts here to offer us any negotiating tips you might have as well as educate us on an expected percentage loss. As in what percentage below estimate would we expect to get from dealer for the coins? We've read with silver it's often between 3-5% of value. Her collection is a mix of gold, silver, billion and rare coins. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you so much for your time.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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30%-50% not 3%-5% below retail
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Welcome..to better help you with your questions maybe listing some of the coins would help so you have a honest number number to work with.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
Yes, please post pics of the ones you think are the best / most expensive ple ASE
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3843 Posts |
First off  to CCF! I'd suggest posting photos of the higher value pieces on this forum to get the memberships thoughts on condition. Armed with that information you can estimate the value. Make sure that you get at least a few offers from coin dealers. Depending on the quality of the collection it might be best to break it up and sell it to dealers who specialize in that area of numismatics (such as old copper or capped bust coins for example) On low value coins (under $50 a piece) I'd expect to take at least a 30% hit (price below guide) and a slightly smaller hit on higher end coins. On coins whose primary value is their metal (silver/gold) it would be customary to expect anywhere between 70 and 90% of the melt value of the coin from honest coin dealers. The less than honest ones sometimes quote 25% or less so be careful.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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You owe it to yourself to get a couple of professional opinions on a rare coin collection. Get and pay for a couple of opinions in the form of an offer to purchase. The winning bid should refund your appraisal fee upon completion of the sale. Before you do anything get the best coins certified by a major grading service. It will be money well spent , as third party grading takes emotion out of the equation with regards to grade and reduces it to price. Also if there are excessively rare and valuable coins auction may be the way to go. Do your homework and bring your self a successful conclusion.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Large as in shoe box, or large as in Lambeau Field? You might be able to auction them yourself and cut out the middle men. But by all means, you have come to the right place to get fair and honest advice.
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Pillar of the Community
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We definitely need pics and or a list of your coins to be able to provide any type of information.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
Everyone has provided outstanding advice!
I would suggest, if you have the patience, to hang around here and post pics or descriptions of your coins. This information will assist us in making better suggestions on how to dispose of your coins. The answer for how to sell a bunch of silver dollars is going to be very very different than if we were talking about a lot of wheat cents. lol
If you get your post count up high enough you might just catch the coin bug or possibly work some trades for bullion which would simplify the selling aspect and possible provide good deals for all parties.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Be prepared to walk away. You will encounter low offers from dealers who "take all of the risk" on the transaction. 30 to 50 percent sounds right in comparison to my last dealer visit.
It should be beneficial to break up the collection instead of selling as a whole.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Anyone with a bricks and mortar establishment looks to at least double their money when they sell an item... maybe that is reduced a little with online sales etc but this 30-50% figure seems appropriate for numismatic items. maybe the 3-5% was referring to raw bullion? Things like ingots are often bought for just below spot melt rate (like 3-5% in the case of decent quantities) since it is easy money to just flip the items off to a bullion dealer for 1% below spot.
The basic equation when it comes to selling is the quicker and easier the sale the less you will get, the longer and harder you work at it the more you will realise.
I would take the advice above and briefly describe exactly what you have and post a few photo's, that way advice can be tailored to your requirements.
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 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Take your coins to a dealer only if you are in dire need of quick cash. If it can wait, hold on to the collection and sell through ebay once you are confident of what you have and it's worth. I helped liquidate a large coin collection for a friend of my wife's family. I estimated the collection's worth at roughly $12-13,000 and realized about $8,500 between a local dealer and some friends who made offers on the better coins. I feel that a fair offer was made on the junk silver (there were probably 800 common, low-grade silver dimes), but I think he under-paid a bit for th silver dollars. I had to negotiate the price on the 40% silver half dollars (he offered face initially), and declined his final offer on uncirculated silver (90% melt value). He did not accept any foreign silver, and offered face for wheat cents. Having a basic knowledge of what I was selling and when to walk from an offer was absolutely crucial to getting a good deal for the lot. If you can post some pictures on here, we do have a lot of very knowledgeable members who can help you out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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On a typical collection 85% to 90% of the collection value is made up from 10% to 15% of the coins. You may want to consider pulling out all coins over $300 in value and sending them to a auction house like Great Collections. If the coins are raw, GC will send them in for grading to nearby PCGS. You will get a discount for grading fees from GC and they will charge a 10% commission when the coins sell in auction. GC is located in Irvine CA, so you could also save on cost and shipping risk. If you only have a couple of coins over $300, it will not be worth the effort. If you have a couple thousand dollars in high end coins, you will be money ahead. Do not tell the dealer that you cherry picked the collection when you sell the other coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 From lots of experience, you'll probably get taken. By that I mean no matter how honest you think someone is, usually they aren't. My suggestion would be for you to simply look up how to buy a copy of the Red Book by Whitman Publishing. Then sit down using that book and make a list of what you think you have and what you think they are worth. Naturally you would be guessing in most instances but should be a bit smarter that trusting someone you don't know. Some of the biggest problems you could run into is having a rare error coin and not knowing. A coin worth thousands could end up getting you a few dollars. Same with many coins of low mintages. Proofs, rare types, etc. If you don't know what you have, you might be giving away what could be a lot of value. I've seen this done so many times now. People that don't know what they have just getting rid of it for practically nothing.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Selling to a collector will net you way more money
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