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Counterfeit 1909 S VDB!

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-S-VDB-...em464145c7a0

S mint mark style is wrong, it may be in the right place, but it's completely the wrong style "S". Not to mention writing just seems to be kind of thin.
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 Posted 09/17/2015  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the classic Chinese counterfeit with the artificial patina around the devices and legends.

With it in a 7 day auction, I doubt the Seller even knows it's counterfeit. Stuff like this is usually in the one day auction format.

Reported .... we'll see if ebay gets around to it before someone gets burned.
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 Posted 09/17/2015  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be an added mint mark.
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Yeah, looks like a cast copy, and mint mark is wrong.
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Kind of looks like a cast copy. but I think the MM looks ok just that it's in wrong location ?
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what is it that indicates a cast copy?
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 Posted 09/17/2015  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the "B" in VDB is wrong.
But even if everything looked right I'd pass on it because it's not slabbed.
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what is it that indicates a cast copy?


Rough, porous, ill-defined details are commonly noted on cast pieces. Casting usually involves pouring molten metal into a mold by the way. Genuine coins are struck by dies and should not exhibit rough, porous surfaces unless something else is wrong.

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 Posted 09/17/2015  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I contacted the seller. From their feedback and other listings I'd say they probably are unaware.
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Still up there.
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I really don't see why people don't have coins like that sent to a TPGS. For the few dollars, they could sell faster. IF REAL that is.
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Yup, ANACS is all you'd need.
This one is an obvious copy. Probably underweight.
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This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing
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Yea, it's down
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Amazing, simply amazing!

"Item ended by the Seller due to an error in the listing"

We reported the listing to ebay, but it took ASQ's from us to the Seller to get him to question the coin and remove his own listing.

We just did FOR FREE what ebay used to PAY employees to do!
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 Posted 09/17/2015  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Westernsky, this isn't the first time...take a look at my other posts from the past 6 months, haha. Probably saved people roughly $20,000.
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