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A Truly Horrifying Piece Of 90% Junk Silver...

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The interesting this is, during a visit to my dealer today I found out that this coin has three or more "companions": an 1891-O Seated Liberty dime, a illegible-date Washington quarter, and a hopelessly bent, corroded, and perhaps partially melted Stone Mountain Half-Dollar were all in the junk silver box.

I picked up the dime, but left the quarter and half-dollar behind. While the latter might have been interesting if I could see something on it, it was so blackened, bent, and corroded that the only way I could even identify what half-dollar issue it was was by pinpointing the characteristic eagle (the only visible part of the whole coin).

Despite these new appearances, a discussion with my dealer hinted that even more coins of a similar condition were brought in by the seller.

I assume that for coins of such disparate time periods to exhibit almost identical damage, they must have been part of someone's collection (since they wouldn't have circulated concurrently, or been dug up in the same area). However, what horrible accident could have affected them in this way? Could a fire do the kind of damage these two coins exhibit?

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Wow those are some pretty beat up coins. If they could only talk.
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Fire? Or small pox?
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Have to be weighed to get ASW.
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Severe ED probably corrosion from burial in a high salt environment, either on a beach, near the ocean, or in the ocean but in soil. The unusual pitting makes me suspect the coin was pressed up against wood. It was not conserved when removed, so the atmosphere reacted with the vulnerable metal and further ate it up.

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Look like dug coins to me too.
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If the coin was "ate up" by salt water or acid of some sort wouldn't it weigh less than normal? The first coin the OP posted was near normal weight so the metal is all still there just moved around similar to a parking lot find.
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Have to be weighed to get ASW.


While I have not yet weighed the dime, the quarter's weight is actually right on target (6.23 grams versus a standard weight of 6.22 grams)! Judging by the looks of the coin, I had thought it would weigh drastically less.


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Severe ED probably corrosion from burial in a high salt environment, either on a beach, near the ocean, or in the ocean but in soil. The unusual pitting makes me suspect the coin was pressed up against wood. It was not conserved when removed, so the atmosphere reacted with the vulnerable metal and further ate it up.


That's what I thought as well: salt-water damage or exposure, or possibly the effects of a fire. But the question is, where would at least four massively different coins--spread out across at least 100 years--have successively circulated, and then gradually been dropped or lost?

The affected coins include the following (at least; there might be more): an 1891 Seated Liberty dime, an 1853 Seated Liberty quarter, a Washington quarter, and a Stone Mountain Half-Dollar.

As someone else mentioned, what's truly odd is that the quarter, at least, does not appear to have suffered any weight loss. I'll check out the dime later and see how much it comes out to.


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If the coin was "ate up" by salt water or acid of some sort wouldn't it weigh less than normal? The first coin the OP posted was near normal weight so the metal is all still there just moved around similar to a parking lot find.
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Yes, it definitely should, since the metal would start leaching away or breaking down. The quarter was actually a tiny fraction overweight (6.23 grams versus 6.22), but I still have to see how much the dime weighs.

I mentioned this to someone else, but whatever affected this coin affected at least three other ones, all of which are quite different from each other: an 1891 Seated Liberty dime, an 1853 Seated Liberty quarter, a Washington quarter, and a Stone Mountain Half-Dollar. They all exhibit nearly identical damage, which means that whatever accident or mishap affected the quarter and dime had to have impacted the rest of them too.
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Long ago fire and then metal detected.
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Great Halloween item.
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Send it to PCGS, and after it comes back send it to CAC.
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I like how you can just barely see the seated liberty!
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I can tell the dime is an 1853, not sure if it's an O or not.
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Thq - you'd work perfect in an environment in which animals are euthanized...
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