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 Posted 01/14/2008  07:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add philney to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have found errors that aren't listed in any of my publications. These are nothing special for the most part and I am sure that I have been mistaken on a few, but I have two now that I am sure of. I have a 1997 P dime that is definitely a DDO and a SBA 1980 S with a doubled mint mark. I have had them on the scanner and checked and checked again.
How can I put a value on or classify these coins?
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 Posted 01/14/2008  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
would/can you post pictures of them?
Thanks,
Jim
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 Posted 01/14/2008  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, first they aren't 'errors' - they would be 'die varieties'.

Second, many of the books only list the finest of the known die varieties...like the CherryPickers' Guide. It only lists 5% of all the die varieties known.

Third, if you are sure you have die varieties there are a number of resources, but your best bet to start with would be CONECA. Visit them at http://www.conecaonline.org

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 Posted 01/14/2008  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Assigning values to die varieties and errors is often tricky business. The market for certain varieties that are "well-known" can be very deep (e.g., 1955 DDO Lincoln Cent)...but for obscure varieties or errors, there really is no extablished market. Sometimes being "too rare" is a real drawback in numismatics.

Similar varieties/errors in different series can also be very differently priced, depending on the popularity of the series in question with collectors. A die variety in the Liberty nickel series is typically not going to command the price a similar coin in the capped bust half dollar series.

Just some observations. Hope you have real die varieties, not just examples of Mechanical Doubling or die fatigue (both very common), and that they catch someone's eye when you're ready to sell.
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 Posted 01/14/2008  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remember that any coin is worth what people will pay for them. Die varieties and error coins are even more so. There are only so many 2005 Denver Mint Nickels for instance and each is worth the going price pending grade of course. But with die varieties and error coins it's almost impossible to tell how many or what types are out there. There are many, many just not listed and if not well known the price is minimal. If for instance a type of error or variety is publically noted in many documments, books, etc. the price or value shy rockets. Example is the famous 55 Double Die Lincoln Cent. It is so popular the price is going up constantly. Same lately with the 72 Double Die. Contrary to that is the numerous rotated reverses on Mercury dimes. Not hardly shown anywhere. Not even listed in the Red Book pages 390 to 394 under Misstrikes and Errors. No publicity, no value. In reality I've pointed out the rotated reverses to dealers at coin shows and was able to haggle the price down as a horrible loss of coin value.
And then with so many possible varieties of each type of coin, the amount minted, the amount still around, the amount wanted by collectors is all just a good guess at times.
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 Posted 01/15/2008  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be more curious to know what indicates a DDO on a 1997 P dime. I've seen every form of doubling other than DDOs on dimes of that date. I would love to see a picture or get as good description of what you are seeing.

The odds are strongly against it being a DDO but anything is possible, I suppose.
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 Posted 01/15/2008  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I am using the wrong terminology. I am far from an error expert and I am just winging it. The SBA MM looks like it has one S layed on top of another.
I thought DDO stood for double die obverse right? Anyway this looks like there is an outline of the bust behind it and across the base of the neck and a lind in the center of the rim about halfway around it.
Can I scan it an dpost the pic here? How?
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 Posted 01/15/2008  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
scan the image to file; ensure the image isn't too large (if it is,use some photo software to reduce its size); ensure the filename has nothing but alpha-numeric characters (no spaces); then, when you choose, "REPLY TO TOPIC" type in your text...below the text reply box you'll see where you can add files to the reply. The ability to load files to the forum is not available in the "quick reply" mode.

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 Posted 01/16/2008  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have posted pictures in a new topic. The dime is a 1991 P not a 1997 and I did not get a scan of it. The post is called "pics of the coin I asked about"...I think
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