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Jefferson Nickel With Several Issues

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So this nickel seems to have a lot of things wrong with it and it could be damages causing other damages, kind of the domino effect or could be actual mint errors. Thoughts please & THANKS! Some things I noticed.

Front - There are creaveses near the face and the W. There is a crack from the first creavese to the crevase in the W in WE.
Front - The last ST in Trust is missing tops of the letters which is exact opposite of the United States on Back Front - The LI in Liberty seem to be very close.
Front - Missing part of the bottom of the T in Liberty
Front - The RIB in PLURIBUS seem to be very close or touching.
Front - Jefferson forehead seems to have a 1/2 moon raised metal
Back - Motecello - the second L seems to be doubled or fat
Back - Below the words United States the rim seems to be missing
Side Rim- Missing and cracked where the words United States appears on the Front


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 Posted 11/02/2015  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcanniz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like the rim part may be a slightly clipped planchet?
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 Posted 11/02/2015  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, that poor coin is full of stuff to look at.

I can't tell if the pits are just damage or if the ooin was made with a defective planchet.

The 'half-moon' on the portrait could be displaced metal from a hit.

It's a shame the coin is so worn because it makes me think it's all the result of damage.
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Could have been a small defective planchet that took a heavy hit on it's rim by all that obverse mess. coin is very worn and cleaned.
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Looks like an incomplete planchet, also a lamination issue on a silver war time nickel.
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 Posted 11/03/2015  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DonnaBB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your feedback.
One curiosity question about the cleaning.
Some history my Mom was always on the lookout
for coins that had issues.
When she found them she put them in a
cast iron 1897 bank said they would
make me rich someday. :)
She passed away in 2003
i just got a whim recently after all this time to look
through them and was bitten by the coin bug.
I have not cleaned it, so curious how you can
tell it has been cleaned. Just trying to learn about th his new adventure. Thanks!!
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PS I think that bank is probably what destroyed the condition of most of her coins :(
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I say very worn with clip and lamination/planchet defects. Nice coin.
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 Posted 11/03/2015  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why clean them. When they are done wrong, it reduces the value by 50% or even more. Best to leave them the way they area. What we may do to a coin today can ruin the value of it in the future.
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 Posted 11/03/2015  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DonnaBB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not going to clean the coin, no no no...
See my post about my Mom. I was wondering why T-BOP said it had been cleaned, why he thinks that when it has been in storage for about 20 years. I was wanting to learn about indicators to look for and how you tell if a coin has been cleaned.

Thanks again.
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Depending on how they were cleaned.

On cents, if an acidic product was used, then the coin will turn pink in color.

On silver shiny coins, you will see hair line scratches on the coins surface.

If the coin was polished, the coin will show weaker design devices and the coin will be extra shiny. (when it shouldn't be)
On steel cents of 1943 they was a steel planchet coated with zinc to prevent rust. If the surface is shiny, then it was probably re-processed/plated. If the steel coin sticks to a magnet and it is copper in color, it has been plated with copper.

If the surface of a coin looks the same color, but has grime/grease/dirt/sand that will be a give away that it was cleaned.

When a coin is cleaned, it remove the outer surface of the coin. That surface if the best for shine/cartwheels.

When this layer is gone, then the coin will look dull and never look/be BU any longer.

I'm sure there is more. Just a few thoughts off the top of my head.
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I think it's great that your mother saved up all those coins and now you have an interest in them.

The nickel may have been cleaned decades ago before you mother ever saw it. It may have turned black and someone thought they were rescuing it.

Anyway, it's a keeper and it's worth a few bucks.
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 Posted 11/03/2015  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DonnaBB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your comments!
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Here are a few examples of polishing-cleaning to know what to look for. Just because a coin is shiny, doesn't mean it was touched up:
Polished:
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Note the weakened design from the over polishing of this coin?
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Not as shiny, but the surface is muddied.
Hair lines from cleaning by rubbing the surface. (common to see these)
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These are one of the things to look for on a cleaned coin.
Harsh cleaning. (perhaps using baking soda?)
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All lower the value of the coin. Turns some coins into melt value.
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11/04/2015 11:12 am
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 Posted 11/04/2015  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DonnaBB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe my Mom cleaned who knows now. I know you are not supposed to clean coins but I have some that are so gooey I barely want to touch them. Some that feel and look like they have oil like from Dad's pockets. I can see why some have been cleaned. I have several silver dollars that she had maybe I can look to see if they have been cleaned then ask you guys what you think. There is one that has a funny tone to it so it probably was cleaned.

Love learning all this new stuff. thanks!
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