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limpkrn2014 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 6:07 pm All I know if only one other one was found in Kenya. there is a article on it. but that's it. I found this one in the united states in a old pouch from a estate sale. Report this Post to the Staff

Skippypnb Valued Member 59 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 6:38 pm Your coin is a fantasy in the style of an ancient. Report this Post to the Staff
Bob Levi Valued Member Canada 488 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 7:30 pm Looks cast copy to me. Report this Post to the Staff
limpkrn2014 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 7:35 pm may I ask how you determine fantasy? I know the other coin that was found is in Chicago museum being tested. it was at fort Jesus museum for a little testing. here is the article. http://standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyl...und-in-kenya Report this Post to the Staff
DavidUK Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2624 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 8:13 pm Can you not see any differences between your coin and that one photographed in the piece? Even to someone that doesn't study coins you can see they are nothing alike other than the design depicted. Its the difference between a Rembrandt and an art student. Also it seems a bit simplistic to read into the die axis that it is a medal. Die Axis could be completely random or it could deliberately have been set like that (as it is with British coins) because if you hold the coin between thumb and finger and spin the coin horizontally then it is always correct way up... why would you turn it vertically? In fact the vertical axis is annoying for those of us who want to see both sides in a page of some kind. (not that they were thinking of this back then) but my point still stands, there is no convention on the way to align dies... especially in the ancient world before mechanisation. Edited by DavidUK 11/04/2015 8:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff
ChildOfTheWheat Pillar of the Community United States 5828 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 8:19 pm It. Is. A. Fake. Coin.* Report this Post to the Staff
limpkrn2014 New Member United States 5 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 8:28 pm The coin in the article the differences are the other coins is not so round on the horse. the size is the same the weight it only a little off. and this coin was in a xfr machine and came back as copper. I totally can believe this coin is fake just wanted some insight and how I determine the difference from real to fake next time. And I have talked to the person that found the coin in Kenya in that article. That's how I know the details on the coin/medal or what ever it is. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 11/04/2015 9:28 pm I agree with the others a modern cast piece. Report this Post to the Staff
Numisma Pillar of the Community United States 4963 Posts	Posted 11/05/2015 01:52 am Sorry, definitely a fake. In the second pic, it looks like there are a few letters above the horse. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16849 Posts	Posted 11/05/2015 02:42 am Neither this coin, nor the one found in Kenya, are genuine ancient coins. Both are modern "tourist copies" of silver coins of Philip II of Macedonia. The bottom pic, and the pic of the Kenyan coin, show the remnants of the Greek legend "FILIPPOU" copied from the original silver coins. But the horse design only ever appeared on the reverse, never on both sides of the same coin. These coins are therefore "two-tailed fantasies", rather than actual copies of a single ancient coin. I have seen identical fakes offered for sale in a coin dealer's fake tray here in Australia. You can see the original silver coins your coin was copied from here and here. You can also see a whole bunch of coins of the same basic design, in both copper and silver, here on the Philip II Wildwinds page. I do not know how a modern tourist copy of an ancient Greek coin found it's way into some kind of archaeological context in Kenya, but I assure you that this is indeed the case. It is not ancient, nor even mediaeval. I'd say 19th century at the very earliest. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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