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Counterfeit 1798 Large Cent

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 Posted 12/02/2015  07:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add EFLargeCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
While this auction has ended, the pics are still up. This fake was so deceptive it was slabbed by NGC (who has been notified and the certification has been pulled). The folks at EAC have found at least 3 of these so far in various states of artificial wear. Coin is made from transfer dies of an S-158. The Y in LIBERTY is the easiest way to tell that it isn't a real one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1798-Draped...047675.l2557

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 Posted 12/02/2015  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What happens now? I wonder if buyer and seller are both notified by someone?
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 Posted 12/02/2015  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EFLargeCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's taken care of Pete. NGC guarantee kicks in in this instance.
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12/02/2015 08:37 am
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That's interesting. I guess that process would start when and if the buyer notices that the certification number is not valid.
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Wow. I think it's posts like these that are the most helpful.
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 Posted 12/02/2015  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now this one when I move it to the correct forum I will not lock.
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This thing is scary good.
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Never even trust a slabbed coin until you have done your homework.
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I wonder what the weight is on these?
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Quote:
I wonder what the weight is on these?


Probably spot-on.
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The pinkish/red undertone is suspicious. Look also at her eye.
This is getting ridiculous.
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Now they're tricking NGC? This is a bit worrying.
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Truly bad news if the fakes are getting into genuine NCG holders ... holy cow.

Worried about the future for any newer collector!

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Wow, Any idea how long these have been out there? I've got a 1798 at ANACS right now and it has the same general wear pattern as that coin. I honestly didn't look at it too closely before sending it. But the gentleman I traded with had the coin in his collection for at least 25 years.
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I would assume these are fairly recent, or they would have been noticed by now. A lot of study goes into these coins and the differences are quite noticeable from a real one once you break it down.
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That is an incredibly good copy, save of course for the 'Y' as EFLargeCents pointed out.
I am frankly amazed anybody would consider spending that amount of money without first confirming the variety. I do this as a routine with any U.S coin I buy. I guess the fact the coin is encapsulated lulls people into a (as it proves, sometimes false) sense of security.
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