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1882 Liberty Seated Quarter Grade?

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 Posted 01/11/2016  2:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KisNap to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Everyone,
I was just wondering what everyone thought the grade of this coin would be. Thanks.



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 Posted 01/11/2016  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EFLargeCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I grade it fake. Matches no no site coin.
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Yes, unfortunately, this is a fake. The surest giveaway is the uneven denticles around the periphery. Plus several areas of the design that do not appear like a 'struck' coin.
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Matches no no site coin.


I was just about to check. My gut said bad as well.
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If it were genuine it would be XF40-45. But it's not. Compare this real 1882, with a little more wear:

http://holtrarities.com/products/de...iness-strike

The 2 in the date on your coin isn't a very good copy of the 2 on the real coin. And though yours is a higher grade, details that should be sharp are way too weak. LIBERTY is particularly mushy, as are the lines in the reverse shield and the eagle's talons.

How much does it weigh? Will a magnet pick it up?
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 Posted 01/11/2016  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought that this coin looked a bit off, well I guess my suspicions are confirmed. Ouch. If you have purchased this I hope that you can get a refund.
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 Posted 01/11/2016  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good discussion. Agree, the digit 2 by itself is a giveaway.
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first two thoughts I had were the "2" and how mushy the overall coin appeared. Where was this acquired?
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It was a gift I got years ago that was purchased on ebay. The coin does not stick to a magnet and weighs in at 6.16g. It's silver in color all around (no other metal showing through) and does have the nice ring to it. What are the Weight Tolerances associated with the seated liberty and could wear account for the additional difference?
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although the base of the "2" is a bit larger than most and the coin is very soft looking, which could by all accounts just be chalked up to overdipping/cleaning, it may not be a fake. more to come...
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The weirdness above the head matches 100% with the no no site coin. So does the weird 2. The motto looks comically bad.
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The thing that got me was that the obverse detail is about 20+ points higher than the reverse, very typical of no-no site coins. However, the OP's coin does not directly match any on the no-no site from what I can tell. I still don't like it.

Here are the five types being sold on the no-no site:

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90% Silver. Note the pimple under the bottom star on the right.

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Same composition as before.

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The coin does not stick to a magnet and weighs in at 6.16g.


That's all we need to know. A genuine specimen should weigh approximately 6.68g. Your's is way too far out of tolerance. Fake.
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By 1882, quarters were at the 6.25g spec, so 6.16g is in the range. It could be a real coin that's been heavily dipped or eroded by seawater. But I still don't like that 2.

Here's another real one.

http://coins.ha.com/itm/seated-quar...bnail-071515

After being whizzed it looks about like the one you have for details...but still that problem with the 2. Even with the abuse you still have a $300-400 details coin - if it's real. Send it to ANACS and find out for sure.
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I forgot about the weight changes in 1853 and 1873.

Before that, I was giving plausibility to a metal detecting find.
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weighs in at 6.16g. It's silver in color all around (no other metal showing through) and does have the nice ring to it.

6.25g-6.16g acceptable.

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although the base of the "2" is a bit larger than most and the coin is very soft looking, which could by all accounts just be chalked up to overdipping/cleaning

it's possible.

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Here are the five types being sold on the no-no site:


The vertical lines in the shield 5/6 is correct. At the no-no site it is on the 7/8 using the right side of the 1 and going straight up. The date is also correct- slopes from left to right.

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After being whizzed it looks about like the one you have for details...but still that problem with the 2. Even with the abuse you still have a $300-400 details coin - if it's real. Send it to ANACS and find out for sure.


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